Leupold,,,, very disapointed

seal the components are legal, just a bit different from the norm. It is a bolt hunting rifle.
I am not sure of the timeline for my own. I am in discusion to distribute the components this may or may not happen. This is something which came to be, very recently.

My limited knowledge has improved in the last year, because I tend to read up on things when I am interesed, and I have gained a renewed passion for hunting. I love being in the bush.

The reason for starting this thread, is because I recognise the steps being taken by companies to ensure that we continue to pay more than the Amaericans for common products of every price range, and I am tired of it. I will now go back to surfing around
in here, and reading the many other interesting discussions. I am glad I sparked some debate, and was happy to read others' views.
 
alta780 said:
seal the components are legal, just a bit different from the norm. It is a bolt hunting rifle.
I am not sure of the timeline for my own. I am in discusion to distribute the components this may or may not happen. This is something which came to be, very recently.

My limited knowledge has improved in the last year, because I tend to read up on things when I am interesed, and I have gained a renewed passion for hunting. I love being in the bush.

The reason for starting this thread, is because I recognise the steps being taken by companies to ensure that we continue to pay more than the Amaericans for common products of every price range, and I am tired of it. I will now go back to surfing around
in here, and reading the many other interesting discussions. I am glad I sparked some debate, and was happy to read others' views.
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Best of luck with the build!
 
cycbb486 said:
with the above comment. I have yet to see that big a price difference on any Leupold scope I am interested in.

It is funny how everyone says shop at home when it comes to actions etc. but on optics go states side because we are being ripped off......... :confused::confused:

As Kevin O'Leary says, show me the money, I say show me the PROOF that Leupold is that much more in Canada over the US.

Here is the straight up question. How many people actually bring in any scope with any sort of range finding capabilities like Mil dot etc Legally? I mean doing the paperwork and having it exported out of the US.

Bet very few. I am asking for facts. Period.

CBY
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i ve done that but the problem is paying the fees from Us state dept. 250 ish plus delays around 9 weeks plus duty fees and extra ...
if you make a good selection with retailers in Canada you re not loosing money and you can get it quicker.

so i totally agree with you the Leupold in Canada are not much higher price than in the states, but again it s more a leupold bashing that facts as you said ...
 
Jordan Smith said:
There should be no duty fee on products made within NA. Leupold distributors shouldn't even be using that excuse to justify the higher prices.
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Jordan what is the higher price you re talking about.

the retailers are paying in USD when they buy Leupold so there is a 5% fee (depending on the current market of USD versus CAN ) plus the custom fees and handling agree or not there are still in .. tell me where is the higher price the resellers are doing ... ?

if you go online in USA and you play the rules it will cost you more to buy in USA than with the shop close to you ...
 
Last time I looked Bushnells and Burris were cheaper in the States as well,why no rants about them?Just more Leupold bashing,if it upsets you,buy something else.When was the last time you saw ANYTHING made in the States that was cheaper up here? Mur
 
medvedqc said:
i ve done that but the problem is paying the fees from Us state dept. 250 ish plus delays around 9 weeks plus duty fees and extra ...
if you make a good selection with retailers in Canada you re not loosing money and you can get it quicker.

so i totally agree with you the Leupold in Canada are not much higher price than in the states, but again it s more a leupold bashing that facts as you said ...
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I would have to disagree with this one.
In order to keep this simple we'll look at the same stores, Cabela's Canada and Cabela's US

Leupold VX3- 3.5-10x40 duplex,matte:
Cabela's Canada- $679.99
Cabela's US- $479.99
42% more in Canada

Leupold VX3 4.5-14x40 duplex, matte:
Cabela's Canada- $739.99
Cabela's US -$529.99
40% more in Canada

Leupold VXII 3-9x40 duplex,matte
Cabela's Canada-$409.99
Cabela's US -$299.99
37% more in Canada

Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40MC
Cabela's Canada- $499
Cabela's US - $399
25% more in Canada


Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44MC
Cabelas Canada-$859.99
Cabela's US -$699.99
23% more in Canada

Though Zeiss is still quite a bit less in the US, as a percentage it seems Leupold have the highest mark-up. The moral of the story is we're getting %^&# by all manufacturers but taking it really deep with Leupold. :D
 
bearkilr said:
I would have to disagree with this one.
In order to keep this simple we'll look at the same stores, Cabela's Canada and Cabela's US

Leupold VX3- 3.5-10x40 duplex,matte:
Cabela's Canada- $679.99 621.99usd msrp
Cabela's US- $479.99
42% more in Canada

Leupold VX3 4.5-14x40 duplex, matte:
Cabela's Canada- $739.99 671.99 usd msrp
Cabela's US -$529.99
40% more in Canada

Leupold VXII 3-9x40 duplex,matte
Cabela's Canada-$409.99 377.99 usd msrp
Cabela's US -$299.99
37% more in Canada

Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40MC
Cabela's Canada- $499
Cabela's US - $399
25% more in Canada


Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44MC
Cabelas Canada-$859.99
Cabela's US -$699.99
23% more in Canada

Though Zeiss is still quite a bit less in the US, as a percentage it seems Leupold have the highest mark-up. The moral of the story is we're getting %^&# by all manufacturers but taking it really deep with Leupold. :D
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you didnt read everything i wrote but i can understand you ..
again crossing the border add taxes and duties that are not on the other side ... try to buy directly from a real dealer a leupold a Zeiss or whathever without the export permit and show me the final bill ...

cabelas US and Canada are not the same check the other prices .... it s not only the leupold plus the volume sold in USA in not the same a market of 35 millions is not the same as +300 millions ...

now for the price and if stay on the same currency the price should be as MSRP noted but dont forget the currency as even if you buy with the same level there is always a charge by the credit card companies or banks.

cant comment for zeiss as i dont have their mrsp ...
 
1- The currency argument is moot because the CDN dollar is worth a couple of cents more than the US dollar, which makes up for the 2-3 cents that the banks and CC companies charge to convert currency.

2- There are NO duty fees on products made in the US, Canada, or Mexico. This is part of the NAFTA agreement.

The only fees associated with shipping scopes up here are shipping/freight, some brokerage, and export fees because scopes are a controlled item. You'll also have to pay GST on imported scopes, but you'd pay GST on locally purchased scopes, too, so that's also a moot point.
 
The bottom line is that if the local retailers can't figure out how to make money by getting the scopes up here cheap enough (keeping costs down) to keep the retail prices reasonably competetive with the US retailers, customers will go to the US guys.
 
Jordan buy a scope in USA and do a business with that here and tell us about the NAFTA and i ll be very pleased to see your experiences this is not what im seeing every day.
everyday we pay duties from US stuffs coming and im not the only one paying. you re certainly more clever than i but as official i have to pay and trust canadian duties never forget me plus the handling fees but again do it and report again on the official market ...

legally means the import-export document from state dpt no grey market ...
 
medvedqc said:
Jordan buy a scope in USA and do a business with that here and tell us about the NAFTA and i ll be very pleased to see your experiences this is not what im seeing every day.
everyday we pay duties from US stuffs coming and im not the only one paying. you re certainly more clever than i but as official i have to pay and trust canadian duties never forget me plus the handling fees but again do it and report again on the official market ...

legally means the import-export document from state dpt no grey market ...
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If it is Made in USA or Made in Mexico, there is no duty, it's called NAFTA. If you're importing stuff from the US which is not made in Mexico, Canada or the USA, then yes, there is duty, obviously.
You will pay a customs processing fee and Canadian taxes. If you're doing it as a business, you will need a broker. Customs can pretty much decide whether or not they think you're doing it as a business. Try to import 5 of the same scope and they'll probably want a broker involved, even if you claim it's for your personal use.
 
maybe is a bad typo but i pay fees to canadian custom (not duties) and maybe this is processing fees too but there is handling fees and also i pay to canadian custom again my misunderstood. so i pay canadian taxes, handling fees, process fees then what is the price that will you please as customer to pay and you ve to remember little shop need to live too ...
so there is no single answer but if you guys want to buy everything down in the south because it s cheaper why arent you living there ????

wish you a good day and good shopping in the USA.
 
Sidetrack of a good thread maybe but... overheard a conversation today relating to swarovski optics - apparently dealers are given the lowest price they are allowed to sell them to customers and if they don't follow the rules they can have their ability to sell the product removed. It was stated that the only exception to the rule was a guide who can show his license and get 10% off. Is this true and is it common practice in the industry? Does Leupold/Korth do this?
 
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aletheuo said:
Sidetrack of a good thread maybe but... overheard a conversation today relating to swarovski optics - apparently dealers are given the lowest price they are allowed to sell them to customers and if they don't follow the rules they can have their ability to sell the product removed. It was stated that the only exception to the rule was a guide who can show his license and get 10% off. Is this true and is it common practice in the industry? Does Leupold/Korth do this?
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about Swarovski or answer your question about Leupold/Korth.

I do know that with Nightforce there is pricing that is set in place for dealers. They are supposed to sell inside that pricing range. Not higher or lower. Makes it fair for all from what I see.

There are other rules regarding NF, having storefronts, and how dealers are choosen. Are these rules always adheared to??????

In regards to Leupold USA and buying down south I guaran damn tee you that there are a LOT of rules and regulations that are broken when it comes to buying or repairing. We as consumers will do what we choose to. I am waiting for the day the thread says, sent my scope to leupold US for repair and the ATF/Homeland security whatever we want to call it, confiscated my scope..................
 
aletheuo said:
Sidetrack of a good thread maybe but... overheard a conversation today relating to swarovski optics - apparently dealers are given the lowest price they are allowed to sell them to customers and if they don't follow the rules they can have their ability to sell the product removed. It was stated that the only exception to the rule was a guide who can show his license and get 10% off. Is this true and is it common practice in the industry? Does Leupold/Korth do this?
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I have a friend who is a Swarovski dealer in Canada and I've heard him speak of that discount. I believe a person has to apply for it and I don't know if it's 10% off retail or dealer invoice.

Some companies give substantial discounts to certain individuals who in a sense will do free advertising of their product. Sitka Gear gives 50% off MSRP with approval.
 
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