Leupold warranty
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I don't know. I bought porro-prism binoculars from Leupold... found they were made in China after. They've been fine and it's been four years if that's any ruler to measure by... they're very clear and comfortable to stare through.
Go full USA. Down to the last screw !
Vortex Optics AMG 1-10x24 $5999.00 (I think it's US$).
My eyes are getting tired, but with good glass, Ive had zero issues on a Zeiss 1-6, and S&B short dot 1-8 on a animal at 600 yards, no Ive never pulled the trigger in my own ethics bounds, but clear as day and with a proper bullet and cartridge I wouldn't hesitate. the rule of 1x times 100 yards does still work and apply, However to your own eyes and the glass....we are spoiled these days with massive power optics. personally if hunting and not punching paper, chasing groups, the 2-10,2-12,3-10,3-9 is more than enough 400-500 yards. (Ive shot matches with a 2-10 out to 800 yards quite fine) would more mag be better, YOU bet it would. but im also a weight snob.
Im not and never will be a Leopold guy, Ive had so many of the older Gen vx2-3 line and zero issues very simple and incredible optics. However I do think their new lower end lines suffer. the high end lines are amazing at $$$$ but to compare a old gen vx3 to one of their sub 1000$ "hunting" scopes as same same... ya I don't think so. like trucks, appliances etc everything in life quality has gone downhill with everything, to a degree. but the mark 4-5 Line is amazing if you got the $$
I will say however I bought 2, used not sure on age Swarovski z3 4-12 that both had turret issues, I filed a request as used
they sent me postage to fix, I got both back cleaned fixed and looked over at zero cost. I was amazed, I cant speak more highly of them.
and they dont even offer close to the same warranty but they def stand behind their stuff.
If you don't need turrets id say the Z3 line is perfect.
Just my 02c
cheers, fellas!
hahah! Ive heard good things and some meh things, prophet river has them at a cool 6k CAD lol!!!
no experience with them so cant say, however Ill gladly take a 1-8 ATACR or 1-8 KAHLES at 2000$ cheaper.
dgradinaru
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Warranty is great, product is mediocre at best. The older set and forget models are known to be the better models but the VX1, freedom, and new VX3HD are low quality, don't track well, zero shifts often enough. This is coming from a guy that was a diehard leupold fan, I've since sold most of them and replaced them with scopes that are actually reliable like Trijicon and S&B.....warranty may be limited on them but at least you know they hold up better.
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Pretty much my sentiments. I do miss the old Bushnell Elites, Leupold VX1,2,3, Nikon Monarchs, Zeiss Conquest scopes... even the Terra was nice. Swarovski is expensive but nice. I've never pulled the trigger on a Schmidt and Bender... a whole other price league. But I'll take a Nightforce.
Colonel Cooper told a story about an Israeli tank - apparently the aiming optics had a high magnification so when the tank had a close quarters engagement, the gunner had difficulty aiming since the sight picture was just full of enemy tank, no particular vulnerable point to discern. He compared that to most guys now who plunk their dollars down for large, heavy over magnified and expensive glass. I read that probably back in the late '90s and he was right. Using the heavy target scopes on targets, it's obvious they are not well suited to hunting: you're screwed if you jump a deer at close distance. 2-8x, 3-10x... <45mm objective is more than enough scope for hunting. I used to shoot skeet on occasion, with a combination gun topped with a 2-7x33 Nikon: set on 2x, it really wasn't fair for the skeet but it felt funny doing it especially as it dawned on me that this would be the formula for an older guy who's sight was dimming: most of us will be old guys some day, it's important to remember these adaptations.
sorry not much help in the spotter department, I won a zeiss gavia a few years back at a wild life supper raffle, gave it to my pops for sheep hunting. has always been a zeiss guy and actually loves it. not sure on cost these days but on a 25$ ticket it sure was the best win ive had ever.
yeah, I feel you there the older and i mean 25 years ago Zeiss conqest 3-9, 3.5-10 etc gen for 500 usd was sure a steal of a deal.
I mainly run NF now, NXS-NX8 and have a few NX6 on order, for what they are they have never let me down.
Old nikon was awesome as well for the price. Swarovski is great but getting up there in cost/vs options. For the average hunter no turrets yes
start adding options and they become expensive fast, and not to knock their new system of turrets I am sure they are great minus only MOA
I will choose a NF over that.
Im not a 50mm objective guy, I really do prefer a 42-44 as best compromise. my 4-16x42 ATACR is great, It took a while for me to like the 2.5-20x50 nx8 but its also great.
The S&B and even Kahles now.... ya they are priced out to lunch it seems.
Everyone must have flunked chemistry class. Reason why high end optics are made in Germany and Japan has to do with a special kind of sand only found in those two countries. Cheap optics can be made anywhere if almost the right sand is available but they won't be the same.
Not only the raw materials but also the production process for fine lenses is the secret.
As a school kid our class visited a Schott factory (trade orientation trip). It was interesting to see at the time. There was one facility we didn't get to see due to restricted access..
In that part of the factory they were "aging" the glass in order to achieve better refractive precision and mediate internal stress in the glass...
"Assembled" in the USA is the scam label they use to make their products 300-500% more expensive of what they are actually worth.
Component manufacturing takes place somewhere else, globally.
Now, why one would trust some Oregon hippies to assemble a proper scope is beyond me. Maybe it's the gold ring, like Frodo and the Shire people.
Component manufacturing takes place somewhere else, globally.
Now, why one would trust some Oregon hippies to assemble a proper scope is beyond me. Maybe it's the gold ring, like Frodo and the Shire people.
So if leupold only warranties electronics for 5 years, how do they determine that? So it’s not transferable and you need to keep your receipt ?
Sounds like a crock of #### to me.
That immediately puts even vortex ahead of leupold these days
Sounds like a crock of #### to me.
That immediately puts even vortex ahead of leupold these days
Ya I have no idea haha… just trying to decide which one to get now and it’s almost like the ford and chev debate , some people like this but other people like that . Regardless everything new under 1000$ is made in china it seems like . So which is best for the money
