I had lasik about 14 years ago and went in for a checkup last year, 20/20 vision.
Sight picture looks as it should, front sight in focus, target slightly blurry
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Lever action shooting high
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Sight picture looks as it should, front sight in focus, target slightly blurry
It might be a bit short but not enough to be awkward
Both rossis I’ve had shot very high at similar ranges, no matter the position or how I held it, even with other shooters it shot that high until I purchased new front sights. Even a ranch hand that shot high with short and long stocks, made no difference. Your dad must be mixing something up or confused when explaining how he lines up his sights or where he’s aiming. Perhaps he’s compensating for it and not telling to you to mess with your head a bit? I couldn’t see it being the gun, you seem to know how to shoot, only factor unaccounted for is a novice shooter who maybe confused when explaining his technique. It’s not uncommon to question a new shooter on something like that after the fact and get “I think that’s what I was doing”
Butcherbill
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Is it the same with your dad or does the lop fit him properly, if you both are having different poi with the same gun and the same ammo and the same sight picture there’s got to be something that is the contributing factor.
Improper stock fit on a shotgun will make a big difference in how a gun will shoot where to are looking, I know this is a rifle and sights are involved but a small ammount off at the users end will be even greater on targets at distance
Improper stock fit on a shotgun will make a big difference in how a gun will shoot where to are looking, I know this is a rifle and sights are involved but a small ammount off at the users end will be even greater on targets at distance
Learn the buckhorn.
Ironically, the remlin with buckhorns I owned years ago shot fine. The rossi and henry with apertures are whats giving me problems
The distance is only about 50 yards. And while he didnt shoot many rounds and his groups arent great, he at least printed a pattern around his point of aim with both the rossi and henry
Might have to do that next time out
I tried this with the henry I had previously. Even the tallest front post Skinner had, though it helped, couldnt get me to true point of aim.
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Butcherbill
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Yeah but if the lop fits him and is too short for you there will be a variation in fit, I know on a shotgun I have with an adjustable stock it shoots high if I have the stock too short. It’s got a front raised bead sight, stock fit could be a factor in your problem.
I'm willing to try anything at this point, next time out I'll try taping on some makeshift extensions
Try focusing on the target rather than the front post. Many who first shoot aperture sights focus on centering the front post in the aperture, then try to find their target. You'll find that if you concentrate on the bullseye (what have you target), the rifle sights will find where you're wanting the bullet to go. https://www.google.com/search?q=how...ate=ive&vld=cid:605ba102,vid:NZrWRk6EM2c,st:0
Other idea ... Both-eyes-open vs one-eye-open? Target-focus vs front-sight-post-focus? Combined with other factors (head cant, eye dominance, mental picture formation) that could account for a perceived deviation between POA and POI. But not 36 MOA deviation I'd doubt?
The only time I've experienced a similarly massive variance between POA and POI it was due to torsion applied between the upper and lower (specifically the sling technique taught being incompatible with the modern firearm I was using). I can't see this applying to a Lever Action though where sights are directly mounted to barrel?
The only time I've experienced a similarly massive variance between POA and POI it was due to torsion applied between the upper and lower (specifically the sling technique taught being incompatible with the modern firearm I was using). I can't see this applying to a Lever Action though where sights are directly mounted to barrel?
Cant will typically cause the shot to impact off to the side, not low or high.
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OP - is there a chance that the rifle is being supported differently - for example, in one case magazine tube against a hard surface versus other case where barrel not touching anything? - I had read that sometimes a shot will "bounce away" if the barrel rested against hard surface like tree branch or pile of boards on table - but no idea if it will bounce 18 inches at 50 paces - nor if it will do so consistently??
Another possible option - involve a third, fourth or fifth shooter - see what results they get - I have fired many rifles, many sighting systems, and what you describe is outside my experience, for results.
Another possible option - involve a third, fourth or fifth shooter - see what results they get - I have fired many rifles, many sighting systems, and what you describe is outside my experience, for results.
MosinMan13
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I second this, I’ve had a Henry in 45LC that shot high and I found the LOP to be too short, cramped even, I always felt because I was scrunched down into it I was more tense in my shoulder which was probably akin to pulling/anticipating the shot.
Maybe that’s silly talk but I’ve always found whether is guns or horses, subtle changes in tack or body position can compound into big changes in result.
Typically yes, but this is not always the most significant axis.
Drop is another side effect of cant (proportionally based on height of sight over bore, zero distance, speed, etc). Therefore an inverse scenario is theoretically possible if the front sight post is twisted when in the "upright" position. I think the odds of this causing a 30+ MOA deviation accidentally are close to none, but the topic of cant had not been mentioned, and it is worth considering as a contributing factor to unexpected results.
