Liberals looking at all out handgun/assault rifle ban!

Hmmm interesting I’m surprised that so many members are in denial that this potential ban is a possibility. I am not a fear monger, nor do I get upset over trivial issues, but this ban is a definite possibility. I’ll reserve my ranting and raving once I’ve read Bill Blair’s final report. We live in an age where a drama teacher is our prime minister and who subsequently paid 10 million dollars to a known terrorist. Times have changed. The amount of far left liberals in Canada has gone through the roof. Do a simple search of the polls to see where the rest of Canadians sit on the issue of gun control, it’s overwhelming in support of some form of a firearms ban. You can’t deny that Canadians want some sort of change. Personally I’d prefer to see tougher positions on crimes involving firearms and mandatory sentences versus a firearms ban. I encourage everyone to write their MPs and applicable cabinet ministers. As I said, I’ll wait to see what Mr. Blair’s final report says before I get too worked up. Mr. Blair may denounce a ban, or suggest stiffer penalties, or suggest a reform of the Criminal Code, which would make all this ‘sky is falling’ non-sense a moot point. If Mr. Blair does support a ban, I’d be curious as to what will be proposed to be banned. As far as I can tell there would be three options: Federal buy back program, grandfather the proposed prohibs, or confiscation. I would like to believe that the third option would not happen, but in today’s day in age, I’m not sure. If we were to go the route of an Australian firearms ban, I would have my fair share of firearms surrendered or confiscated, but I would have several that would be legal by Aussie standards. I obviously don’t support a ban but even the neigh-sayers must come to the realization that a ban is a possibility.

Hunter Coblentz: "Concerning [Toronto Mayor David Miller's]proposed ban on handguns and considering that this will be consequential only to owners of registered firearms, will this proposed ban truly be effective since the majority of shootings in Toronto involve illegal, unregistered firearms?"

Chief Bill Blair: "About 30% of all crime handguns that we seize from criminals have been stolen or otherwise diverted from legal gun owners. Legal gun owners are not dangerous but their guns certainly become dangerous when they get into the hands of criminals. My officers have to take these loaded firearms off of those criminals every day. I support any measure that will make it harder for criminals to get guns.We are also encountering many issues with the failure of legal gun owners to adequately secure their weapons. Gun ownership is not just a right, it comes with a legal responsibility to secure these weapons against theft or misuse.

We are working hard to stop guns coming into Canada. We need to also ensure that the ones that are here don't get into hands of criminals."




Can we please stop thinking there is not going to be a gun ban. lol
 
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I wonder what would happen if they did initiate such a ban and everyone simply ignored it.

That would be totally entertaining.

If everyone just said nope.. not gonna do it... laws must make sense to reasonable people and we are reasonable people so we will do what reasonable people will do, and not be bullied into repression / fined by a lunatic who lives his life stoned on the pot he legalized and looks out foolishly at this country all dreamy eyed with his Elton John style rose colored glasses.

I can see the headlines now... YardWorks Stock Hits ALL TIME HIGH as Shovel Sales Sore Leading up to the Canadian Gun Ban
 
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Remember when the last non-restricted firearms registry was introduced in the '90's? Anyone recall what a number of farmers did with their guns? As I recall they placed them in the ground all over their land, with mapped locations and told the libs to stuff it. I know this scenario is considerably different, but that's what I'm prepared to do. I don't care if government watch dogs are watching this site, and tracking comments. I am at a point where I will play the martyr if need be, maybe that'll be what it takes to draw public attention to this BS. Though it is a poor comparison, as an example, if they were to announce that all two story homes were deemed to be more likely to cause loss of life during a fire, therefore all two story homes need to be left and turned over to the government, would people be so quick to comply? I know I wouldn't. Like I said it is a poor example, but I have many $000's invested in guns, I'm not just going to hand them over, especially under the guise that it's for public safety. We all know it addresses absolutely 0 gun crime. I have the luxury of knowing that if I do a stretch, my wife and kids will still be well looked after ( and for all those that want to suggest it's easy to say, I have been there before, in a different life time). This is something I feel very strongly about, and I will not comply with this kind of logic and bull####. If they could even come up with solid stats that legally owned guns are part of the issue I would consider it, but it's all so conniving and blatantly corrupt that I feel it's the only way to play them at their game. So that is what I intend to do
 
JT is following the Hegelian dialect here. Problem, reaction, solution. Fact is the Toronto shooting on July 22 was a terror event being covered up by our government.

This is an ONGOING agenda with the lieberal (Marxist mostly) gvmnts of Canada and some of the provinces. THIS is one of the reasons Canada is dismissed globally as already socialist. In some ways we are and in others - screw you!!!! Typically the ####ti ... er cities are ultra (idiotically) leftist and the fly over provinces are almost identical to the US and guess who LOST in the US election?

The present dip who is our PM is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UNqualified to do anything but teach snow boarding. He never got a degree let alone a teaching degree but refers to his wholiness now as a "RETIRED TEACHER." Utter BS! He worked at a school briefly when he returned from BC and they called him an ASSistant DRAMA COACH.

It should be pointed out and reminded to the older crowd that BOTH Trudy (his nick name in Parliament and there's a REASON for that - if you follow) and his Marxist daddy that they were both asked what their fav form of gvmnt would be and bot - about 30 years apart - said a "Combination of China and Cuba is perfect." It should be noted that Pierre said that not too many years after Mao had exterminated up to SIXTY MILLION of his own citizens. I know. The apologists will be all over that saying that isn't what he MEANT ... really?

OK this latest push to disarm CANADIANS is as a result of a radicalized prik shooting up a street in Toronto with a handgun.

Let me break this down for ya.

The prik had posted photos on his FB page of him and his brother at a Islamic terrorist training camp somewhere in Pakistan. They took that down right away - we weren't supposed to see that - and blamed the whole incident on "mental issues." No mention of Islam. Mental Health and officials were stymied as to how this could happen.

OK, to the GUN issue. This was a handgun from a shipment in the USA of 35 handguns. The shipment was STOLEN and then SMUGGLED into Canada - likely BY the priks brother. Neither brother had a license to buy, own possess or trade ANY guns, SO ... a QUADRUPLE ILLEGAL HANDGUN was used and now our leftist politicians suggest BANNING HANDGUNS and SEMI-AUTOS will solve the problems of gang and terrorist use of guns here.

The scary thing is about half the population are too F-ing stupid to see what an out and out LIE this is.

One addendum to this story ... the BROTHER is in a coma somewhere. There was a medical "incident" (got a whiff I suspect) and when he was removed by EMS the police and fire were called in. Besides finding the other 34 handguns from the stolen shipment from the US they also made one of the largest seizures of Carfentanil ever!! 48kg (117 lbs) of the stuff. The generally accepted FATAL DOSE for a human is 20 mcg so ( I READ this - haven't done the math myself) 48 KILOS is enough to kill over TWO BILLION people !!!

NO MENTION of the possibilities with this stuff. In fact other than mentioning it - no story at all by the media or the gvmnt. If it was simply being cut into meth or crack the final product would be worth a HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. I mean WTF, right!!! But keep in mind the two priks just got back from Muslim training camps so THINK WHAT 48 KILOS OF Carfentanil WOULD DO IN A CITY'S WATER SUPPLY, DUMPED BY AIR INTO THE OPEN ROOF OF THE SKYDOME, ETC ETC ETC.

BUT THEY WANNA BAN HANDGUNS ... and then everything will be fixed!!!

JT does not care one iota about our freedom or security and the fact this terrorist incident is being covered up and the blame and finger pointing falls on the backs of law abiding citizens who enjoy firearms for hunting and shooting is an outrage to us all.

He needs to be removed from power before this country is lost.
 
FYI despite a smaller land mass than Canada, Australia has 25 million people and the UK has 55 million. Canada has a population of 37 million. I wouldn’t call either country small, and both Australia and the UK are islands surrounded by water (Scotland’s firearm laws are near identical to England). You seem to think that 2.5 million registered gun owners can have more of an influence than the 20 million registered voters. Educate yourself before claiming that it’ll never happen. Please instead of calling ill informed people that a firearms ban isn’t the answer and how it affects lawful gun owners. Bad guys don’t follow the law that’s why they’re bad guys they’ll find a way to procure firearms.

20 million registered voters doesn't mean 20 million people who ACTUALLY vote,and if think that 2.5 million license holder and their friends can't influence an election,sit back and watch the Liberals get destroyed next election,as for getting rid of guns in Canada,well that's never happening.we have the longest practicaly undefended border in the world,you can simply walk across in a million places with whatever you want,you can literaly snowmobile back and forth all over the northeast like nothing,and it's done constantly,so funny sitting down at a restaurant and going to pay your bill with your US money and be told you're in Canada,LOL.Montana is another fun place where people zoom back and forth all the time,on quads ,dirtbikes,and anything else.so guns will always be available,and i seriously doubt any owner will simply turn over his legaly purchased property simply because some Liberal twits wants him to,good luck with that.
 
I agree with the talk of a sale! What do you say to 50% off all “assault rifles” and handguns...? you know to put more in the hands of legal owners!

if I could get a DMR ACR by Bushmaster for cheap I would love it I don't even need mags just the ACR lol, but cash lol
 
CBC just released this pile of stink!

Write your MP, tell friends and spread the word. Unless you want to end up like England and Australia get up and make some noise!

https: //www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-handguns-firears-1.4801700

* Do not hotlink to CBC article - this will be easily traced back to here

Do not hotlink the CBC article, because it will be traced back to here, who cares.
 
Is it always like this? Seems as soon as i started getting into the process of getting my RPAL, all this stuff comes along. It's very frustrating that the general public is so uninformed.
 
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I bought an actual CCFR shirt when I saw this the other day.
I think wearing shirts like this in public is going to have the opposite effect of someone seeing it and thinking "Oh! Now I support those gun guys!" but the CCFR shirts may just peak some interest and get someone to check out the firearmrights website.
 
20 million registered voters doesn't mean 20 million people who ACTUALLY vote,and if think that 2.5 million license holder and their friends can't influence an election,sit back and watch the Liberals get destroyed next election,as for getting rid of guns in Canada,well that's never happening.we have the longest practicaly undefended border in the world,you can simply walk across in a million places with whatever you want,you can literaly snowmobile back and forth all over the northeast like nothing,and it's done constantly,so funny sitting down at a restaurant and going to pay your bill with your US money and be told you're in Canada,LOL.Montana is another fun place where people zoom back and forth all the time,on quads ,dirtbikes,and anything else.so guns will always be available,and i seriously doubt any owner will simply turn over his legaly purchased property simply because some Liberal twits wants him to,good luck with that.

You’re right about two things, registered voters don’t equate to votes cast. I could only find stats from a couple years ago which said 20 million voters and 17 million votes cast. I don’t know where you went to school but that’s no where close to 2.5 million registered firearm owners even if the were to get some friends and family to take a strong stance against some sort of firearms ban. The other thing you’re right about is that JT won’t be in power next election but that’s because it’s a culmination of his poor political prowess not because firearm owners are going to oust him.

You’re over simplifying the issue. The Liberals aren’t tabling an all out firearms ban they’ve tasked a former Toronto police chief who is now a cabinet minister to report back to the cabinet whether there should be some sort of a firearms ban. Based on similar commonwealth countries if the report is in favour of a ban it would likely include semi-autos, pump shotguns, and handguns.

You’re suggesting that it’ll never happen just because. I’m suggesting it maybe a possibility because polls, statistics, and history have shown that Canadian people support some form of firearm reform. I’ll wait to see what Mr. Blair’s conclusion is before I’m getting worked up.

Although I don’t agree with a ban I would conform with the law because if I didn’t I would be no better than the gangsters and ISIS idiots out there. If you feel the need to stockpile firearms and ammo then fill your boots but I find it troubling that you claim that a ban would never happen because you can simply cross the US border illegally? So you’re for illegally crossing the border and trafficking and illegally importing firearms?

I’m just suggesting that we all review Mr. Blair’s report before going all tin foil hat in the forum.
 
I bought an actual CCFR shirt when I saw this the other day.
I think wearing shirts like this in public is going to have the opposite effect of someone seeing it and thinking "Oh! Now I support those gun guys!"

Yeah, those shirts sure as #### ain't gonna help. "I lubricate my guns with liberal tears!".......We are on the defensive, we aren't in Florida. If that's our angle it's likely we'll be getting our asses lubricated with our own tears.
 
Yeah, those shirts sure as #### ain't gonna help. "I lubricate my guns with liberal tears!".......We are on the defensive, we aren't in Florida. If that's our angle it's likely we'll be getting our asses lubricated with our own tears.

I agree.

I’m going to get a CCFR shirt: https://shop.firearmrights.ca/collections/clothing

They’re nothing flashy but buying one supports CCFR directly and a shirt like that is much more likely to encourage reasonable conversation. Trolling liberals may be fun but ill advised at this time ... they are in the driver’s seat. We need to promote an image of firearms owners as being normal reasonable people.
 
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