LION CHARGE on VIDEO!!!

[Boomer]

Not all of them are "hunters", some are guides, staff, guests with the hunter. Probably not uncommon to have the whole party armed for dangerous game hunting just in case something like a lion charge or when dealing with a wounded animal. Wouldn't you want your own rifle even if you weren't going along as the hunter/designated shooter? I bloody would! Also, in the last video shown, going alone isn't a great idea, or is going with only one rifle. That would have almost certainly resulted in that man dying, possibly both of them.

When there is a casualty in a dangerous game hunt it's often one of the unarmed trackers who has been injured. Typically in Africa a given hunting party has two unarmed trackers, the armed PH, two armed clients, the game scout who is a government guy required for oversight who might be armed with an AK or an SKS, and any number or observers who are unarmed but have paid to participate. In the case of a wounded lion, if the problem is not resolved immediately, it would not be unreasonable to bring in another PH and his clients from another concession. If the lion evades the hunters he is now a threat not only to the hunter but to anyone who happens to be in that part of his range, including the local indigenous population.

Canadaman30's experience was pretty much as I expected, as few hunters have had the opportunity to confront really dangerous game. A moose at close quarters can be dangerous, but I've never heard of a moose hunting and subsequently killing the guy who wounded him. Lions do this, buffalo do this, and elephants do this. They will also kill anyone who stumbles onto them until they can be killed. Think in terms of a mobile land-mine with a brain, it will stalk you, get close, then explode. North America's big bears are magnificent and exciting to be around, but they aren't in the same league as a lion.

Hunting Africa's dangerous game is a serious business, but stalking the lion could be the height of a sporting hunt. The safest way to hunt a lion is to set up a bait in a wide open area and build a blind perhaps 30 yards away. Seldom is there more than the PH and his client in the blind, because to win they must be absolutely silent. Even this can be very exciting when the lion comes to investigate the blind and you hear the dry leaves crunch under his paws and you realize that 400-450 pounds of lion is only inches away, and all that separates you from him is a thin veil of grass.

When we were in Africa lions weren't on our license, but we saw them, and it ain't like in the zoo. A lion in the long grass is not a pleasant thought at all, even when you are not hunting him.

Try to find all 5 lions . . .

 

[MagnumPeanut]

Boomer first off I will say 4 or 5 guys with guns going after one animal is not really my idea of fair chase hunting and as for Dangerous hunts yes I"ve had a few, ran down buy a bull moose still sport the scar in my shoulder from its antler, woke up after being knocked out, and have had a big Boar black bear charge at close range lucky to have had 12 gauge with open sights and slugs dumped him feet away. 5 against one and ganging up as in that video is not my idea of a fair hunt is all.

WTF?

So it is fair to let a person die? Remember that we are dealing with human life here. I don't give a rats ass it 20 people were hunting one lion. If its safer to have more guns, more guns it is. It doesn't make you cool to go after a lion 1 on 1, it just makes you stupid. You wanna die by being mauled and then eaten alive, be my guest.

The stupid people you find on the interwebs.

 

[kayaker1]

That was with Johan Calitz in Botswana. The story goes that another PH joined them after that lion was wounded earlier by a client, so no, not all those folks were on an original safari, which had 2 clients and probably 2 PH's, the third coming to help.

Unfair to have 4 or 5 guys? No. First its a wounded animal so all reasonable measure should be taken to ensure that it is secured and killed ASAP. Second, its a lion and dangerous, which ups the ante on the former point.

 

[canadaman30]

Peanut is 5 on 1 a fair fight or a slaughter? is it fair to have animals being slaughtered just to get a picture and toss them aside. That is exactly what was happening to lions in Africa until the early 1970's.

 

[sjemac]

Peanut is 5 on 1 a fair fight or a slaughter? is it fair to have animals being slaughtered just to get a picture and toss them aside. That is exactly what was happening to lions in Africa until the early 1970's.

I don't hunt to "fight" period. If I did, I'd take to the woods in a loin cloth and armed with a tomahawk. I hunt for meat, hides, trophies and the experience.


This ain't the 70's anymore so why make that unsubstantiated comment?

 

[Boomer]

Peanut is 5 on 1 a fair fight or a slaughter? is it fair to have animals being slaughtered just to get a picture and toss them aside. That is exactly what was happening to lions in Africa until the early 1970's.

Once an animal is wounded, fair is no longer the point of the exercise. Where did you come by the information relating to African lions prior to the early 1970's?

 

[MagnumPeanut]

Peanut is 5 on 1 a fair fight or a slaughter? is it fair to have animals being slaughtered just to get a picture and toss them aside. That is exactly what was happening to lions in Africa until the early 1970's.

Who the f**k is going to Africa to "fight" a damned lion. Get your head out of your ass. This is sport hunting, and guaranteeing a person's safety and the humane killing of an animal is more important than a few crazy people's idea that a hunt needs to be "fair". If it was supposed to be fair you should be in the same boat as the animal and have no vehicles, guides, gun, ammo, knives or cloths.

There is NOTHING unethical about being as safe as possible when hunting, especially with dangerous game.

And making the claim that you would rather see hunters killed by lions puts you on thin ice. You're on a hunting forum, DELETE.

Yes, I'm mad.

 

[Camper]

Amen M.P. !!!

 

[canadaman30]

5 guys with heavy calibre rifles against 1 animal takes the danger out of the game. Not much of a Dangerous Hunt anymore. 1 guy with a bow against a Brown Bear is far more Dangerous, Take your head out of your ass Peanut......Deleted

 

[CheeseBurger]

5 guys with heavy calibre rifles against 1 animal takes the danger out of the game. Not much of a Dangerous Hunt anymore. 1 guy with a bow against a Brown Bear is far more Dangerous, Take your head out of your ass Peanut......Deleted

Go take the place of the guy in the video from post #25 and try and say thats not dangerous.

 

[gak]

There is always going to be some risk no matter how many people there are. I read about a hunt where several of the party had bolt-action rifle jams just as the animal(s) approached.

If the guys/gals have the cash to go hunt lions and it's legal what's the problem ? It reminds me of the anti-hunter crowd that says stalking a deer in the forest is bad, but "growing" cows/pigs/chickens by the thousands in cramped metal pens and slitting their throats is A-OK.

 

[Boomer]

5 guys with heavy calibre rifles against 1 animal takes the danger out of the game. Not much of a Dangerous Hunt anymore. 1 guy with a bow against a Brown Bear is far more Dangerous, Take your head out of your ass Peanut......northern inbreed

This is an interesting comment. It pre-suposes that 5 guys with light rifles would provide greater danger. I wonder what the opinion of villagers who might live in that hunting concession might be. I'd be willing to bet they would opine that should a lion be wounded and lost that all efforts should be made to find it and kill it. Once the first shot has been made, fair chase has been satisfied and the only responsible thing to do is get the job finished. Sometimes its not pretty, but that is the nature of hunting.

You seem to be very concerned with the well being of a single particular lion, so I wonder if you have ever considered what life for an old or injured lion would hold. It would be ostracized by the pride, it finds it impossible to hunt for its natural food and must resort to eating carrion or easier to acquire game, like people, and will likely die of disease or starvation. The lion killed by the hunter, or group of hunters, as he comes to the end of his prime, has won the lottery.

 

[scrammersam]

5 guys with heavy calibre rifles against 1 animal takes the danger out of the game. Not much of a Dangerous Hunt anymore. 1 guy with a bow against a Brown Bear is far more Dangerous

you got that completly backwards

 

[MagnumPeanut]

5 guys with heavy calibre rifles against 1 animal takes the danger out of the game. Not much of a Dangerous Hunt anymore. 1 guy with a bow against a Brown Bear is far more Dangerous, Take your head out of your ass Peanut......northern inbreed

The more you post in here, the dumber you look.

The inbred comment would get you hurt if you had the balls to say it to my face, rather than over the internet, tuff guy.


No one here understands your BS logic that hunting needs to be dangerous to be fair. On the contrary, it should be as safe as possible or you should stay home. Anyone that hunts bear with a bow is great in my books, but any bear hunter or guide that I have ever seen ALWAYS takes a backup rifle or shotgun for when things go wrong. Safety equals brains. No one with brains would want to see dead hunters.

 

[jdman]

Stop with the insults guys, or it will be locked.

 

[Pickles]

Everytime there's a thread like this a closet PETA member shows up.

That being said, I could never kill any form of cat. I can't explain why other than we have a couple of cats at home that I love more than most people.

But, I'd never inflict MY opinions on someone doing something legally.

I watched the video and all I can say is......pass the toilet paper.

 

[rem338win]

I already suggested to the enflamed individual that tosses inbreeding remarks (this seems to be a problem with people from "Upper Canada", and is really rather pathetic) that he prove his mettle by chasing some bears, lions or whatever with a spear.
He failed to respond and I believe that the individual has some minor character flaws. One being a distinct lack of common sense.
Oh, and if you happen to take up my suggestion, please allow a camera to capture the entire scene, as Youtube would likely appreciate a display of such brazen manliness.
Keep up the good work; I believe you have made as many friends here as may surround you now.

Again, very cool video. Right out of a Capstick story.

 

[jaydog]

Hey Boomer- whats up with the picture of the old lion? It looks like its out of a book (I can see a bend in the image) and the lion has what looks like three bullet holes in him (shoulder, hip and knee) but its hard to tell.

 

[saskgunowner101]

Yeah, Simba's looking pretty rough in that photo.

 

[Lakonian]

Hunters have been killed by lions, but if it is your bit to watch something like that, I am sure there are more Goth sites for you to be touring. Define justification, and then feel free to use the word as it is properly applied.
Some peoples children.......................are walking stillborn

Hahah. "goth". Anyone with more than a modicum of intelligence would have forgone using that comment in this context.. +1! for ignorant comments, attacking ignorant comments.

Lions, like bears, scare the fackin' turds out of me. I would never want to go toe-toe with any of them, unless I had a nice 100 + yards inbetween.