Lobbying for handgun hunting

To whom it may concern
My name is Mike Shickele, I have hunted in British Columbia my whole life. I am a law abiding citizen. I've completed all of the necessary requirements to own a handgun legally in Canada. It is legal to hunt with a bow in this province, yet, oddly enough, it is no longer legal to hunt with a handgun. It is also not legal to carry a handgun for personal defense against wildlife while hiking in the summer. I am formally requesting that B.C. allow handgun hunting in the regulations, and that the chief firearms officer of this province dispense the appropriate permits to those who wish to hunt with, and carry handguns in this province. We have already proven ourselves law abiding citizens, capable of handling the equipment that is necessary to perform the task, and we have the same voting power as any other citizen of this province.
sincerely, Mike Shickele

This was just sent to the B.C. Ministry of Environment
Mike
 
i would be willing to fight for this right, i think hitting a target accuratly with a hand gun is as much an art as it is with a rifle, if other gun nuts dont agree then simply choose to wave that right if we should gain it

also someone said on this thread about wanted to having it for defence against predators in the bush, with the increasing bear issue in my neck of the woods i would enjoy an afternoon hike better if i knew i could defend myself without lugging a rifle so many km when my intention is not hunting
 
It would a blessing if we allowed trappers to carrey a .22 cal revolver on their trap lines, it would make our lives so much simpler, carrying a long gun, plus all the other gear is a real pain in the ass. If we could make this work, it could pave the way for the rest.
 
About 20 years ago. in conjunction with Safari Club, we were close, and had Ottawa pretty much convinced to consider single-shots, XP-100, TC Contenders, for hunting purposes. We just needed a Provincial or Territorial gov't to make a request. We pursued it here in the NWT and did fine until the specific minister got involved, ....he beleived only gangsters need handguns and vetoed it even though his underlings were in support!!!

I believe this is still the best approach, go for single shots in hunting calibers, ...you can make a good case for them, larger, bulkier, and not concealable, only single shot!! If this flies with good results, then you start to lobby for expansion to revolvers, etc. This approach, starting with "handrifles" does not entail the fight with the Antis that would come with revolvers, autos, etc. (gang weapons!!)

Having hunted outside Canada with handguns back a few years ago, I'm a firm believer in doing so. Having to get in closer to the game only makes you a better hunter, similar to archery and BP.

Good luck,
 
foxytrapper said:
It would a blessing if we allowed trappers to carrey a .22 cal revolver on their trap lines, it would make our lives so much simpler, carrying a long gun, plus all the other gear is a real pain in the ass. If we could make this work, it could pave the way for the rest.
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Why can't you get a wilderness ATT as a trapper?

I don't see the need to promote single shot mini rifles over other viable handguns.

If the caliber and accuracy is appropriate for the animal being hunted that should be enough.
 
I think we should fight for hunting with handguns period. Should the government decide to limit to single shots at the start, we may accept that and keep pushing.

As firearms owners we are too willing to compromise, before even being asked. The anti's start asking for a complete ban, then accept begrudgingly when they only get one segment. However they don't start out asking for just that segment, even if it's there goal.

We need to ask for what we really want, which is a handgun season, irregardless of the handgun, if government officials decide to put a shot limit, or caliber restrictions, we may take it at that time, and continue to fight. I just don't want to see us compromising before we get started.

Other then that I think it is a great fight to take up, I have wanted to hunt with a pistol since I took up IHMSA. Which is why we are fighting to get the restriction removed from the provincial regulations.

I think it's technically within the CFO's power to issue permits for that, it's a matter of them having the will to do so.
 
Single shots works for me if that is all we can get, I already have a 14" 45 Colt barrel and a 16.5" 22lr barrel for my T/C Contender carbines just need to add a pistol grip and I'm good to go... :D
 
i'd vote that we don't ask them to "at least allow single shots" cuz then that might lock the community into that for a long LONG time. better to put the effort in and get as much approved as possible. going from single-shot to allowing CCW is a LOOOOONG step, and probably far too big for the gov't to see it as a reasonable extension.


also (yeah, SOMEONE might know what's coming...), if you're gonna write directly to an MP, make sure you've got ALL your spelling 100% correct, and capitalized in the right spots. also, correct sentence structure would be prudent. writing to a gov't official regarding a serious issue needs proper professional writing. just saying - i've seen some things that people write and wouldn't be at all surprised if the recipient tossed it aside as insignificant and got the impression that it was yet another "hey i came up with this while at the bar and jotted it down on a wet napkin, here it is just as i wrote it back then, plz take me siresly."
 
if you're going to write and send, let's start with "to whom should i send it to?"

seriously. if you're just writing to a relative about your vacation, you can be a bit loose, but i'm assuming you want to be taken seriously and be seen as an educated citizen and not some guy who just walked out of Moose Lodge holding a stubby and saying 'eh'
 
Scar270 said:
I think we should fight for hunting with handguns period. Should the government decide to limit to single shots at the start, we may accept that and keep pushing.

As firearms owners we are too willing to compromise, before even being asked. The anti's start asking for a complete ban, then accept begrudgingly when they only get one segment. However they don't start out asking for just that segment, even if it's there goal.

We need to ask for what we really want, which is a handgun season, irregardless of the handgun, if government officials decide to put a shot limit, or caliber restrictions, we may take it at that time, and continue to fight. I just don't want to see us compromising before we get started.

Other then that I think it is a great fight to take up, I have wanted to hunt with a pistol since I took up IHMSA. Which is why we are fighting to get the restriction removed from the provincial regulations.

I think it's technically within the CFO's power to issue permits for that, it's a matter of them having the will to do so.
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I understand what you are saying, and I agree somewhat. Dont sell ourselves short right away. However...


Scar270 said:
As firearms owners we are too willing to compromise, before even being asked. The anti's start asking for a complete ban, then accept begrudgingly when they only get one segment. However they don't start out asking for just that segment, even if it's there goal.
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I have to disagree with this. The anti know full well that if they did ask for a complete ban on everyhting all at once, they would not get it.
SO THEY DO NOT DO SO.
Instead, they have mastered the art of divide and conquer. First it was just full auto that got banned. Then a few other evil military guns. Then it was large magazines. And so on.
Meanwhile, Joe hunter feels that it does not concern him at all, because so far, it has not concerned him much.

Again, I understand what you are saying, but your example is completely wrong.
 
Hunting With a Handgun

The main reason that hunting with a handgun will never be allowed in Canada is that if it were allowed, all those hunters with only an Unrestricted PAL would demand equal rights and petition politicans to be allowed to hunt with handguns. This would become a political and bureaucratic nightmare that no politician would want to become embroiled in.:stirthepot2:
 
I have a hard time swallowing the idea that hunters with only a pal are going to give any problems with equality, it's quite simple.... Get rpal. Bow hunters don't cry about not being able to hunt with a rifle, freshwater fishermen don't cry about not being able to fish salt water, they just simply get licenced to do so.
 
Ps. I'm all for hunting with hand guns. Mabey we all need to send in a big envelope containing our personal information and criminal background checks to prove that while we own these pistols we have not commited any crimes with them, we had to do it to get them in the first place. How bout a big pallet of envelopes right on the doorstep.
 
Canuckistanman said:
The main reason that hunting with a handgun will never AGAIN be allowed in Canada is that if it were allowed, all those hunters with only an Unrestricted PAL would demand equal rights and petition politicans to be allowed to hunt with handguns. This would become a political and bureaucratic nightmare that no politician would want to become embroiled in.:stirthepot2:
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Fixed it for you.
If you are going to make absolute statements, please be sure to mention that it was legal up to relatively recently.
Which sort of throws the rest of your theory into disrepute.
 
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