Lockhart renegade semi auto conversion

[WilliamM]

Feel free to explain how a semi-auto MRA Renegade is not an AR-15 variant, considering the Mossberg 715t is considered one.

The interface between the upper and lower assemblies. I do believe that is the rationale.
Also, get enough rubber bands and the Renegade is a SA.

 

[Paul_1982]

The interface between the upper and lower assemblies. I do believe that is the rationale.
Also, get enough rubber bands and the Renegade is a SA.

That’s the rationale with an unmodified receiver. Modify it and install a gas system and what do you have?

 

[Bfranklin]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ............ You may want to consider the two conversions below and then rethink your argument?

The semi-auto converted lever gun.

The full auto Lee Enfield bolt action. (Charleton Rifle)

This proves my point.

A conversion doesn't change the abilities of the original, unless there has been a conversion.

 

[Paul_1982]

This proves my point.

A conversion doesn't change the abilities of the original, unless there has been a conversion.

And doesn’t disprove mine. The semi-auto version will be banned, and they have a tendency to just list a firearm by name in OIC’s.

 

[WilliamM]

That’s the rationale with an unmodified receiver. Modify it and install a gas system and what do you have?

Why do I need a gas system, when I can get bungee cords from Princess Auto?

 

[Paul_1982]

Why do I need a gas system, when I can get bungee cords from Princess Auto?

Because a bungee cord isn’t part of an ar-15.

 

[WilliamM]

Because a bungee cord isn’t part of an ar-15.

And a gas block isn't part of a Renegade. It a modification.

 

[WilliamM]

If we're so worried about modifications, how long until trigger kits make it on the unacceptable list? To that end, it's a NR rifle, unless you're sprinting to to police demanding that they take it, how does anybody know it exists?

 

[Paul_1982]

And a gas block isn't part of a Renegade. It a modification.

Exactly.

 

[Tokay444]

That’s the rationale with an unmodified receiver. Modify it and install a gas system and what do you have?

Simps gonna simp.

 

[Paul_1982]

Simps gonna simp.

Gonna accuse me of working for the RCMP lab too? Lol

 

[Tokay444]

I don’t own a single gun that I haven’t modified.

 

[WilliamM]

Exactly.

So, where is the line for "acceptable" modifications? How much, in your opinion, is too much?
As I've stated before, I'd consider rolling the dice on one of those mods. At least I can canabalise the AR parts that are rusting away. At worst I disappoint Daddy Carney, I'm already a disappointment so LETS GOOOOO!

 

[Paul_1982]

So, where is the line for "acceptable" modifications? How much, in your opinion, is too much?
As I've stated before, I'd consider rolling the dice on one of those mods. At least I can canabalise the AR parts that are rusting away. At worst I disappoint Daddy Carney, I'm already a disappointment so LETS GOOOOO!

lol at anyone who thinks a semi-auto Renegade isn’t an AR-15 variant in the eyes of the RCMP. I think ATRS is all the proof we need.

 

[WilliamM]

lol at anyone who thinks a semi-auto Renegade isn’t an AR-15 variant in the eyes of the RCMP. I think ATRS is all the proof we need.

Then don't get it. Nobody here is forcing you to.

 

[tiriaq]

Right now, this conversion is not illegal.
Sooner or later, perhaps already, the RCMP will create a FRT entry for the modified rifle. Remember that the FRT is to be a catalogue of all firearms..
Sooner or later, perhaps already, the firearm will be classified by the RCMP.
Sooner or later the FRT entry including the classification will be published.

 

[Paul_1982]

Then don't get it. Nobody here is forcing you to.

I don’t care who gets it. That’s not my point at all.

 

[WilliamM]

I don’t care who gets it. That’s not my point at all.

Back to your original point about the 715t being banned as an ar variant. Who is to say that they won't do the same thing to the Renegade, even in its bolt configuration. As you've stated there is no rhyme or reason to the prohibitions. It's got AR ergonomics, that was good enough for the 715 it'll be good enough for the Renegade. Enjoy it while you can still play with it.

 

[Paul_1982]

Back to your original point about the 715t being banned as an ar variant. Who is to say that they won't do the same thing to the Renegade, even in its bolt configuration. As you've stated there is no rhyme or reason to the prohibitions. It's got AR ergonomics, that was good enough for the 715 it'll be good enough for the Renegade. Enjoy it while you can still play with it.

They might revisit it if someone makes a semi-auto version.

 

[WilliamM]

They might revisit it if someone makes a semi-auto version.

They might revisit it if the Liberals are falling too far behind in the polls too.