Agree, some things raise questions, however overall positive impression for first version. We'll need to see how it works out with bigger round count. Their 9mm version seems to be very good (compared to FX-9 and K-9).
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Agree, some things raise questions, however overall positive impression for first version. We'll need to see how it works out with bigger round count. Their 9mm version seems to be very good (compared to FX-9 and K-9).
I have has mixed dealings with Samuel, but I will say he has in every transaction delivered what I purchased, or what he committed to sending in replacement.
A couple times, these things arrived a while after I had given up on waiting, and moved on.
He always came through though. Even on some small items.
He's doing things no sane person would be investing in with the current government. I applaud his temerity.
A couple times, these things arrived a while after I had given up on waiting, and moved on.
He always came through though. Even on some small items.
He's doing things no sane person would be investing in with the current government. I applaud his temerity.
I really like my 9mm Raven so far.
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Hopefully someone can explain this to me because the website has this written very oddly. I understand the Raven 9 needs the platinum for the last round bolt hold, but does the gold level for the 5.56 version have that standard as most 5.56 bolts catch on the mag after the last round? Can anyone who has the gold confirm that the bolt holds back on the last round or do you need the platinum for the 5.56 model?
So if I understand correctly there are different levels of "build" (ie Gold / Platinum) and only the upper levels (ie Platinum) offer last round bolt hold open?!
That sounds odd for me, I love that there is another option out there though, particularly direct impingement.
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i did a lot of digging last night and when you look up the Gun builders kit for the 5.56 version it states that they all automatically have the bolt holdback feature as its a design of the gun as other 5.56 versions have built in. It seems they have just copy and pasted the list from the Raven 9mm.
So if you dont care about ambidextrous, buy the gold and save a few bucks!
So if you dont care about ambidextrous, buy the gold and save a few bucks!
No I don’t think so even I want to believe that. I looked at the builder kit and did not find the statement. Maybe someone who had the base model can clarify
This was on the builder kit description:” The Raven 5.56 Platinum Models come with ambidextrous Bolt Catch / Release buttons as well as ambidextrous Magazine Catch / Release buttons.
The Gold Models have these features removed.”
Built in to the machining likely but you have to add in the additional parts to use the bolt hold. I questioned this as well over the phone with lockhart but the difference is minimal extra cost just to go ambi if you get a complete gun. If i remember its 50 to 100 on a full gun to add the parts to a gold. Dont quote me on that butvthats my understanding. Was told the hold open is proprietary to their carrier.
The 9mm has a standard length upper and appears standard ar15 chargers will work. The 556 is midlength and appears to have a proprietary length handle which sucks. Maybe this skirts the ar15 reciever style since the proprietary bolt carrier comes into play. I dont have a ar10 charging handle so im curious if with the extra length that might for in their midlength version. Or if the 308 long length is actually proprietary or a ar10length. A friend of mine ordered a blem version to take a look at and compare. So ill see when it shows up and take some measurements and pictures. If that helps anyone.
Was told over phone that other handgaurds would just need the nut you have. Theirs is proprietary as it only push pin in place which isnt great as some have alluded to. But it will allow you to use their dust cover if chosen. I which this was built in as well. And just had a left han sided charging option only for those that just want to go that route. I thought maybe they were keanung towards only producing it as a side charge due to the current govt decision and switched up to semi and added the adjustable gas block and barrel. Just a hypothesis but idunno. In uk lantac makes a raven as well side charge only and in the states theres a raven ar. Maybe in design someone else had their hand in it.
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Sure does but some suckers always bite. I looked at the web site and thought I am at the BMW dealership. Do I really need a ball warmer with cloth seats kind of thing.
i told the new caddy to go to my bmw and get the golf tees. "what are those" he asked, since he was new to golf. "i rest my balls on them when driving" i said. "wow!" he said, "that car has everything" ...
Or you can buy the entire rifle for 2k….
R18 starts around 2700? Raven has mounted deflectors being made for install, or put a stick on deflector for now.
What components are you referring to? Buy accessories elsewhere. Most people have them at home or can get cheaper elsewhere. Platinum is $2045. Or 2150 with the charging handle. Still a better deal than receiver only.
Lever rifles are going for 2k+ now. This is firearm pricing in Canada now.
You're awfully defensive of their price structure - you linked to them in some way are you?
My point, that you are either clearly missing, or being willfully dismissive of, is this:
If one considers the costs of $1700 for a receiver set or $2050 for a complete rifle (before tax),
subtracting the receiver set from a completed base model rifle, the rest of the components including the barrel would appear by most reasonable counts to be more than $350 retail.
It stands to reason then that Lockhart recognizes there are a lot of people out there with complete ARs and are looking to cash in on that misfortune by selling overly inflated priced receivers.
People are fooling themselves if they think these won't get swept up further down the road in more bans through 'ever-greening'.
They'd be better off to keep their ARs as is, and donate the cash that they'd otherwise use to pad Lockhart's wallet to fight the LIEbrals.
And no, it cannot be summarized by "This is firearm pricing in Canada now".
My point, that you are either clearly missing, or being willfully dismissive of, is this:
If one considers the costs of $1700 for a receiver set or $2050 for a complete rifle (before tax),
subtracting the receiver set from a completed base model rifle, the rest of the components including the barrel would appear by most reasonable counts to be more than $350 retail.
It stands to reason then that Lockhart recognizes there are a lot of people out there with complete ARs and are looking to cash in on that misfortune by selling overly inflated priced receivers.
People are fooling themselves if they think these won't get swept up further down the road in more bans through 'ever-greening'.
They'd be better off to keep their ARs as is, and donate the cash that they'd otherwise use to pad Lockhart's wallet to fight the LIEbrals.
And no, it cannot be summarized by "This is firearm pricing in Canada now".
