- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Initially I just used 5 gallon oil pails lined up in a row, but I have since built a plywood bullet trap, I just have to wait until it warms up enough to use it . . . still snowing here.
Long range bullets
- Thread starter Papaclaude
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Initially I just used 5 gallon oil pails lined up in a row, but I have since built a plywood bullet trap, I just have to wait until it warms up enough to use it . . . still snowing here.
Drill mud is very different from clay in that it is elastic, and while clay tends to act as a barrier to water keeping it out, drill mud absorbs water.
A bullet that impacts a dry medium will not exhibit the same terminal effects as the bullet which impacts a fluid bearing medium. This pic shows a bullet that was shot into a dry 16" timber.
Is that a 380gr .375 Bomer?
I might be over reacting, but I don't like the looks of that bent bullet?
Think a buff shoulder could bend it?
Another 9 pager about hunting ethics, and long range myths. To answer the OP, at that distance, I would use the A-max. I have had fantastic results with that bullet on deer, well, well, past the 600 yard mark, with a smaller calibre. The .308, has more than enough poop to get the job done at that distance.
I cannot believe the continous bashing of long range hunting from those that have so obviously never even shot at any significant distance. Lots of people here really need to think about what they are typing, and the mis-information they are conveying. Think about a 30-30, a 38-55, or a 45-70, dropping a buffalo at 600 yards, and now a .308 can't get it done on a black bear? Come on. If the idea of turning the top turret on your scope, to adjust for bullet impact in the field, is foreign to you, then you have no buisiness on a long range thread. Ever.
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I cannot believe the continous bashing of long range hunting from those that have so obviously never even shot at any significant distance. Lots of people here really need to think about what they are typing, and the mis-information they are conveying. Think about a 30-30, a 38-55, or a 45-70, dropping a buffalo at 600 yards, and now a .308 can't get it done on a black bear? Come on. If the idea of turning the top turret on your scope, to adjust for bullet impact in the field, is foreign to you, then you have no buisiness on a long range thread. Ever.
R.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The 380 gr soft point will never bend on game due to the water content in tissue and bone. The bent 380 does illustrate though why solids should be short in length, as they don't need great weight to penetrate well. Rhino developed a 380 gr solid, but IMHO choosing such a long solid would be a mistake, because a long solid introduces the possibility of bending and once the bullet bends, straight line penetration is lost.
TSXs will also bend if you shoot them into a dry medium.
Provided there is some water content in the target, the Rhinos will show some upset even when there is very little target density, in this case snow. I continue to believe that the 380 gr Rhino soft point is the best expanding bullet available for close to medium range on dangerous game, due to their potential for great expansion coupled with weight retention and deep penetration. Solids have their place though, which many North Americans don't appreciate.
Hornady's cores by comparison are made of a much harder alloy, and require a target of greater density or higher impact velocity to expand, these were the result of low velocity impacts.
