Looking At buying a high quality 22LR
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Love my CZ 452 Varmint. Thousands of rounds down it with no problems! Enjoy it every time I take it out and figure it was one of the best value for money deals I ever made apart from the near mint LE Jungle Carbine for $15 way back when but that's another story that didn't end up so well
RangerPark
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I'm very happy with my CZ 455 Supermatch that I got from Tenda along with 5000 rounds of CCI ammo. Free shipping to boot. Haven't had this much fun with an open sights rifle in a long time.
None of the guns mentioned in the OP are "high quality." The least expensive "quality" rifle would be the CZ 452, but spend a few more bucks and get the CZ 453, I prefer the Lux versions, but the American rifles fit more people as they have a standard profile. For "High Quality," you will spend in excess of a couple grand.
Mystic Precision
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I assume you mean precision shooting as in "PRS style" events? If you mean Benchrest, then disregard as you should go in another direction.
I have had several Bruno rifle which are the granddaddy of the CZ452 and 455's. I very much liked these rifles and competed with them to good effect.... but for CRPS type events, I went with a Savage MkII.
I prefer the simplicity of the scope set up, trigger adjustment, mag style and release, and the consistent accuracy using match ammo. Cost of entry is dirt cheap by comparison allowing options to build the rig specific to your tastes and fit.
Mine started as a very humble FV in a plastic stock for $280... swapped into a Boyds pro varmint stock to my dimensions. Bedded, adjusted the trigger, changed out the bolt knob, added a EGW 20 MOA base, Burris Rings and Athlon Ares BTR scope. Currently it is thriving on SK Rifle Match ammo but will be testing some Eley in the future.
This set up proved very competitive in Merritt last weekend with the top two shooters using a very similar rifle. Third used a CZ455 in a similar stock.
If you want off the shelf, the Savage TRR is near identical to my rifle.. just rid of all those silly rails... bed it, trigger adjust, find the ammo it likes, enjoy.
CZ455 now has a tacticool stocked option... this stock is working well for a number of shooters. Some may prefer chassis or other layouts but this will get you started.
Jerry
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Exactly. I've seen a high defect rate in CZ 455s regarding their barrels. Specifically, poorly machined chambers and crowns. The 455 action is capable of excellent accuracy, given a few tweaks plus (key) a high quality barrel ( eg. Lilja, Benchmark, Shilen etc...). And when you go that route, the price quickly climbs so if you aren't handy enough to DIY, you're spending as much or more than a 54 actioned Anschütz sporter.
Best advice I can give is to save your schmeckles and get an Anschütz 1710. Suits your field carry needs and should easily shoot MOA or better off the bench. Duds can happen with any brand, but the rate is much lower with Anschütz than CZ, Savage, or Ruger. Even the odd match barrel can be a dud
There are no real guarantees with rimfire, but generally the more you pay the better your odds of getting a winner are.If you’re going the Annie route bump it up to the 1712 with the 18 inch barrelExactly. I've seen a high defect rate in CZ 455s regarding their barrels. Specifically, poorly machined chambers and crowns. The 455 action is capable of excellent accuracy, given a few tweaks plus (key) a high quality barrel ( eg. Lilja, Benchmark, Shilen etc...). And when you go that route, the price quickly climbs so if you aren't handy enough to DIY, you're spending as much or more than a 54 actioned Anschütz sporter.
Best advice I can give is to save your schmeckles and get an Anschütz 1710. Suits your field carry needs and should easily shoot MOA or better off the bench. Duds can happen with any brand, but the rate is much lower with Anschütz than CZ, Savage, or Ruger. Even the odd match barrel can be a dud
452 better track record of higher quality. No longer made though.
If you are willing to stretch a little bit a DAR22 from DLASK is only 700
Some places still have NIB CZ 452's in Varmint or Lux models. The key difference between the 452 and 455 design is that the 455's all have the same receivers and all 455 barrels, whatever the model or caliber, are interchangeable. CZ 452 barrels are threaded and are not meant to be removed by the average user.
As others have noted, CZ's have a very good fit and finish, but the most significant factor in achieving accuracy is in the barrel. Anschutz gives very good odds of getting a very good barrel but they cost about twice as much as a CZ.
As others have noted, CZ's have a very good fit and finish, but the most significant factor in achieving accuracy is in the barrel. Anschutz gives very good odds of getting a very good barrel but they cost about twice as much as a CZ.
nickvaselino
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Buy a CZ , either 452 or 455 and get out shooting. The 455 may technically be cheaper to produce and have lesser tolerances, but you can change out barrels easy if you are going to put millions of rounds down range. I just bought a 455 varmint in 17 hmr and its a laser rifle , i shoot it a 100 and can pick rocks of gravel piles at 300 yards, put a good scope on with decent reticle and shoot lots to get your holdovers. I would reccomend the varmint barrels over all else, but that is personal preference.
easyrider604
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Few things can bring a smile to my face on a calm morning like watching shot after shot of cheap Winchester Dynapoints go into 1.5 inch groups at 100 meters. When lighting conditions are ideal I can see the bullet in flight as well. How cool is that. My CZ452 Style and Varmint as well as Savage Mk2F did that, and often enough into an inch as well. Too bad I can’t find Dynapoints this good anymore.
Can’t even find Dynapoints around my place anymore.
Can’t even find Dynapoints around my place anymore.
Sakoman .308
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- Nova Scotia
These are not the highest quality out there, but they are both very accurate.
Ruger/Kidd 10/22 with Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16x50mm. It uses a Kidd trigger kit for a 1.5 pound pull.
CZ 452 Varmint in a Boyds stock with a Sightron Stac 4-20x50mm. The Yodave kit gives an excellent 9oz pull.
One day I would like to try a Sako P94 Finnfire, and an Anschutz 1710 D HB.
Walther rifles also look interesting.
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Ruger/Kidd 10/22 with Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16x50mm. It uses a Kidd trigger kit for a 1.5 pound pull.
CZ 452 Varmint in a Boyds stock with a Sightron Stac 4-20x50mm. The Yodave kit gives an excellent 9oz pull.
One day I would like to try a Sako P94 Finnfire, and an Anschutz 1710 D HB.
Walther rifles also look interesting.
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Ruger 10/22 are fun, but can be harder to get accuracy out of them. CZ452, CZ455 would be the a better way to go. also look at both the Savage MKII & the CZ455 side by side if you can.
The metal / machining of a Savage MKII looks like sh!t compared to a CZ455 the action on the CZ is very nice, quality machined parts.
Don't get me worng the Savage guns can shoot well, but the action looks like sh!ty stamped metal.
The metal / machining of a Savage MKII looks like sh!t compared to a CZ455 the action on the CZ is very nice, quality machined parts.
Don't get me worng the Savage guns can shoot well, but the action looks like sh!ty stamped metal.
Personally prefer the older Walther KK series for great quality and precision, even with light barrels. SET TRIGGERS ARE REALLY NICE.
Some CIL 180s can do pretty well if they were cleaned carefully over the years( I.E. not using a cleaning rod like a drain pipe snake!)
CIL 190s with their heavier barrels do well.
Some CIL 180s can do pretty well if they were cleaned carefully over the years( I.E. not using a cleaning rod like a drain pipe snake!)
CIL 190s with their heavier barrels do well.
I would think it’s a different shooter now that it’s made by Volquartsen
