Looking for a more expensive type of gun
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gunrunner100
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You can't beat a Mannlicher, whatever way you spell it
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You got that right ,
W**** or Gun. 
well, any company is gonna claim their own product is awesome. i never Remington say " our model 710 is the best peice of #### for your money" not saying that kimber is bad, but no company ever gives itself bad reveiws
6000 on a hunting rifle!!!!!
If you have money to burn cure your *** and a custom is the way to go. However, the bottom line is that you can get a top quality factory hunting rifle with a high quality scope for about 1500-2000$ that will last a lifetime. At some point when you know exactly what you are looking for and have gained the experience and knowledge required to make an informed descision go out and get that custom rifle. Based on the tone of your post my guess is your not there yet.
If you have money to burn cure your *** and a custom is the way to go. However, the bottom line is that you can get a top quality factory hunting rifle with a high quality scope for about 1500-2000$ that will last a lifetime. At some point when you know exactly what you are looking for and have gained the experience and knowledge required to make an informed descision go out and get that custom rifle. Based on the tone of your post my guess is your not there yet.
Cereal
I liek the way you are thinking, and frankly, I wish I had thougth the way you do years ago, when I was first gearing up to go hunting. IN the long run, it woud have saved me alot of $$$ had I just gone out and bought the best gear than buying the mid range or ow end stuff and then replacing it when it didn't operate properly or broke, or didnt' do what I wanted it to do.
For your purposes, there really is no need to spend $6000 on a set up. In5-10 years, you will have an idea about what you iek and dont' like, and can get a custom hunting rig built to your specs.
RIgth now, if I were you, I would do this:
Buy a Kimber or Sako in whatever cartridge you like and get wood or synthetic, as you prefer. (while I woudnt' personally buy either of these rifles, I already know what I like and don't like, so that point is moot- just liek the other posters points about what works best for *them* and not *you*)
Top it with Talley rings and a Leupold Vari X III or VXIII scope, in 2.5-8x 36 or 3x9.
Spend some $$ on reloading gear and components.
This way you will have a good quality rifle, a good quality scope and the ability to manufacture good quality ammo to feed it.
You will spend some of the $6000 you saved on components, and learn how to shoot like a champ.
I liek the way you are thinking, and frankly, I wish I had thougth the way you do years ago, when I was first gearing up to go hunting. IN the long run, it woud have saved me alot of $$$ had I just gone out and bought the best gear than buying the mid range or ow end stuff and then replacing it when it didn't operate properly or broke, or didnt' do what I wanted it to do.
For your purposes, there really is no need to spend $6000 on a set up. In5-10 years, you will have an idea about what you iek and dont' like, and can get a custom hunting rig built to your specs.
RIgth now, if I were you, I would do this:
Buy a Kimber or Sako in whatever cartridge you like and get wood or synthetic, as you prefer. (while I woudnt' personally buy either of these rifles, I already know what I like and don't like, so that point is moot- just liek the other posters points about what works best for *them* and not *you*)
Top it with Talley rings and a Leupold Vari X III or VXIII scope, in 2.5-8x 36 or 3x9.
Spend some $$ on reloading gear and components.
This way you will have a good quality rifle, a good quality scope and the ability to manufacture good quality ammo to feed it.
You will spend some of the $6000 you saved on components, and learn how to shoot like a champ.
troutseeker
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I'd buy a Savage 200, a Busnnell 3200. lot's of ammo and several great hunting trips!
Troutseeker
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Just my 2 cents. I'm fairly new to hunting as well. I started off with average gear and decent Ruger 30-06 rifle. My scope isnt the best thing available but I got what i could afford and it'll be upgraded later. I do hunt with a guy who's always been fed with a silver spoon. He has the best of everything you can buy. Now its a running joke that he's outfitted with the latest gucchi-huntingware. Or that he'll go into a sports store and say, I'll take the most expensive thing you have...no wait..I already have that...I'll take the second most expensive thing.
The guy in our group who consistently shoots most of the animals and is the most accurate shoots a Remmy 7600 30-06 with an old 3x9 Bauch and Lomb scope.
For me, I'd go with a Sako, Tikka or Remmy or whatever you preference is in the <$1200 range but then add on some decent optics like a 4200 or a VXII or VXIII.
Lots of guys I know have miliary surplus camo from places like Milarm.
The $100 Walmart camo is just as "camo" as the $500 stuff and last time I checked, the deer aren't really fashion police.
Good luck with your choice but most importantly, have fun and blast some animals.
The guy in our group who consistently shoots most of the animals and is the most accurate shoots a Remmy 7600 30-06 with an old 3x9 Bauch and Lomb scope.
For me, I'd go with a Sako, Tikka or Remmy or whatever you preference is in the <$1200 range but then add on some decent optics like a 4200 or a VXII or VXIII.
Lots of guys I know have miliary surplus camo from places like Milarm.
The $100 Walmart camo is just as "camo" as the $500 stuff and last time I checked, the deer aren't really fashion police.
Good luck with your choice but most importantly, have fun and blast some animals.
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
This is an interesting tread... I think spending a few thousands $$ on a nice rifle as nothing to do with needs. (An inexpensive savage with a synthetic stock would do the job)
It's all about taste and wanting a nice rifle, and I respect that. Wether or not cereal83 as the $$ to burn is irrelevant. I have to agree with is way of thinking, I rather have fewer nicer gun, then a truck-load of "ok" gun. I would rather spend $500 on a automatic watch then buying 10 Timex, they will both tell me what time it is, the Timex is bound to be more precise and it might also have a timer/chrono/alarm and hearth rate monitor... But I will still enjoy the automatic watch more.
Synthetic and stainless are great if the condition you hunt in do not allow you to maintain your firearm and/or you require extreme accuracy all time... But for me, I would gladly sacrifice a 1/2" shift in the point of impact at 200y on a rainy day, to be able to enjoy holding a nice piece of wood.
The Kimber SuperAmerica are certainly nice rifles...
And so are the Steyr Mannlicher Classic...
Who really cares if you put a bump and scratch on it while hunting... If I wanted to invest my money, I would buy gold and bonds... Gun money is playing money, it's just convenient that firearms usualy don't depreciate much or might gain value over the years
It's all about taste and wanting a nice rifle, and I respect that. Wether or not cereal83 as the $$ to burn is irrelevant. I have to agree with is way of thinking, I rather have fewer nicer gun, then a truck-load of "ok" gun. I would rather spend $500 on a automatic watch then buying 10 Timex, they will both tell me what time it is, the Timex is bound to be more precise and it might also have a timer/chrono/alarm and hearth rate monitor... But I will still enjoy the automatic watch more.
Synthetic and stainless are great if the condition you hunt in do not allow you to maintain your firearm and/or you require extreme accuracy all time... But for me, I would gladly sacrifice a 1/2" shift in the point of impact at 200y on a rainy day, to be able to enjoy holding a nice piece of wood.
The Kimber SuperAmerica are certainly nice rifles...
And so are the Steyr Mannlicher Classic...
Who really cares if you put a bump and scratch on it while hunting... If I wanted to invest my money, I would buy gold and bonds... Gun money is playing money, it's just convenient that firearms usualy don't depreciate much or might gain value over the years
Hey all,
Thanks for keeping the replies coming. They do help me decide on stuff.
As for wanting to spned alot more money then I have I think is a good reason because I spend less in the long run.
I have a $350 Rem 870 with a $200 rifles barrel, a Savage 64 22, a $450 Savage 30-06 and a $200 Elite 3200 Scope but originally I got a Bushnell Banner for it and then i read those were garbage. The banner was $100 and I put that on my 22 because I have nothing else to do with it. I have extra scopes and all this crap that I don't think I will ever use I bought a rangefinder for like $120-$150 I think and it stopped working properly like 4 months after I got it. My spotting scope, well I can't see anything out of it and basically have to jam my eye into the eye peice to be able to see anything and even then it is only good to about 100 yards. I bought a reloading kit for $100 because I didn't feel I needed to spend more money.
Now that I realize that instead of wasting all that money on the stuff mentioned above and more, I could of just started off with good stuff and I would have been happier.
$1500 for a gun, $1000 for a scope, $500 for a rangefinder, $800 for Binoculars $1000 for a spotting scope is now what I am looking at spending. Then for reloading. I am gonna buy rcbs stuff and get an accuall press and a digital scale and all that good stuff. No more of this cheap crap. I just said $6000 because thats what my budget is for this year. I have a GIC that expired a few weeks ago with close to $20k in there. I want to spend this all on gunting stuff only. Not over the next 6 months but over the next 10 years. So if in like 4 years I finally know what I want then I can spend that $10k for the custom gun but that is a far time away imo since my 30-06 isn't even sighted in.
So kids, when buying your first stuff, buy the best you can afford. It's just easier and usually better.
This is my idea of an awesome gun
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Thanks for keeping the replies coming. They do help me decide on stuff.
As for wanting to spned alot more money then I have I think is a good reason because I spend less in the long run.
I have a $350 Rem 870 with a $200 rifles barrel, a Savage 64 22, a $450 Savage 30-06 and a $200 Elite 3200 Scope but originally I got a Bushnell Banner for it and then i read those were garbage. The banner was $100 and I put that on my 22 because I have nothing else to do with it. I have extra scopes and all this crap that I don't think I will ever use I bought a rangefinder for like $120-$150 I think and it stopped working properly like 4 months after I got it. My spotting scope, well I can't see anything out of it and basically have to jam my eye into the eye peice to be able to see anything and even then it is only good to about 100 yards. I bought a reloading kit for $100 because I didn't feel I needed to spend more money.
Now that I realize that instead of wasting all that money on the stuff mentioned above and more, I could of just started off with good stuff and I would have been happier.
$1500 for a gun, $1000 for a scope, $500 for a rangefinder, $800 for Binoculars $1000 for a spotting scope is now what I am looking at spending. Then for reloading. I am gonna buy rcbs stuff and get an accuall press and a digital scale and all that good stuff. No more of this cheap crap. I just said $6000 because thats what my budget is for this year. I have a GIC that expired a few weeks ago with close to $20k in there. I want to spend this all on gunting stuff only. Not over the next 6 months but over the next 10 years. So if in like 4 years I finally know what I want then I can spend that $10k for the custom gun but that is a far time away imo since my 30-06 isn't even sighted in.
So kids, when buying your first stuff, buy the best you can afford. It's just easier and usually better.
This is my idea of an awesome gun
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Mad_Mikee said:
I understand it's not always better to buy the better stuff but I bet that $500 jacket is alot better. It might look the same but I bet the material is better, and it does it's job better.
Same with the $100 Irish setter boots and the $300 Danner boots, same with the Bushnell Banner and the Bushnell Elite 4200 and the list goes on. I think it is better to spend more money then less.
The Stevens 200 is an awesome gun or so alot of people say around here but it's ugly as hell and the recoil pad is a puck.
I dunno, I would rather spend more to know I am getting quality
cereal83 said:
Cereal
Most of the peopel that try to steer others away from good quality stuff either dont' knwo enough about the good stuff to make them want to buy it, have different priorities (often set by thier wives) or simply cannot afford it.
Without a doubt, the goodf hunter with a POS rifle is goign to bag more animals than the inexpereinced guy witht he $$$ rifle, but so what? You are comparing peopel here, not gear.
Some peopel buy the most expensive stuff they can, or the biggest baddest magnum rifle they can, to impress others- again, this has nothgin to do with the gear, just the people.
Different people put differnet values on different things. I knwo lots of guys that feel the need to replace thier $50 000 truck every 5 years, but think I am crazy for spending $3000 on hutnign rifles, or $2500 on a hunting trip.
You are on the rigth track. Good quality is never out of style. There is a limit to everything, of course. I can't afford to equip a dozen hunting rifles with Swaro scopes, (nor do I necessarily think I need to) so I use Leupold instead, which I think is a decent compromise.
Comparing a POS Walmart raincoat to a high quality rain parka is a joke. Long after the Walmart special has failed, or you have sweated so much it's raining inside the coat, or it got caught and ripped on a branch, I will be warm and cozy inside my ventilated parka...
