Looking for clubs to start up IDPA!
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stormbringer
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Do not ODPA, IDPA and CDPA all follow the same rule book except for a few niggling points?
Damn........almost worse than some religious groups.
There is MUCH more to unit you than there is to keep you apart.
Damn........almost worse than some religious groups.
There is MUCH more to unit you than there is to keep you apart.
IDPA is rather specific in it's rules. you can't be "sort of" IDPA and get to play the official game. Which is a good thing, if you are going to offer something, and want to call it something specific, you'd better actually be doing the right stuff, otherwise what's the point?
stormbringer
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Slavex said:
Might I venture to say..............FUN!
stormbringer said:
There are all taken from the IDPA, why should IDPA unite and join/merge with factions which directly were taken from IDPA, they offer nothing to IDPA...
IDPA is actually cheaper than the off shoots
and it is being regulated... there is no govening board/directors for the others, they are fun as you have mentioned.
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as Pop mentions, IDPA is the source. if they want to call themselves IDPA then they have to follow the requirements. if they don't want to, they can't associate with them and it's false advertising if they say they are. It would be like clubs saying they are IPSC and they aren't. We don't allow that, why should IDPA allow it for them?
no one is saying clubs can't create their own thing, I did that once, but if you want to say you're IDPA, you have to actually be IDPA.
no one is saying clubs can't create their own thing, I did that once, but if you want to say you're IDPA, you have to actually be IDPA.
stormbringer
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Hmmm
I mention one CDPA, One ODAP and one IDPA....see only 1 is calling themselves IDPA..
From what I have read the "offshoots" sprung from the inability or unwillingness of "IDPA" to acceed to changes required by Canada's Stupid laws in particular barrel length for Revolvers which resulted in a vaccum which was then filled relatively simultaneously hence the triple offering we have now.
I mention one CDPA, One ODAP and one IDPA....see only 1 is calling themselves IDPA..
From what I have read the "offshoots" sprung from the inability or unwillingness of "IDPA" to acceed to changes required by Canada's Stupid laws in particular barrel length for Revolvers which resulted in a vaccum which was then filled relatively simultaneously hence the triple offering we have now.
stormbringer said:
There isn't a problem with me shooting my 5" 625, IDPA allow you do comply with the laws of your country, but the only thing is that I can't shoot it in the US. It will have to be a 4".
It isn't a big deal if you aren't going to the US to shoot.
When we go to the Nationals in PA, I'll shoot one of my other guns.
Ummm probably more of an unwillingness to pay the membership fee when they could shoot the courses without paying for a membership. Hate to be brutal but that is likely more the case then the revolver rule. Revolver division even stateside is the orphan division in terms of numbers of participants.
I can't see where extending the revolver division out to 5" or less for Canadian shoots would pose much of a problem. IDPA clubs could just do it. I can't imagine the world would lose much sleep if two compeitors duked it out in a revolver division in a local match in Terrace with 5" guns. Hell most of the real world wouldn't care if the match was held in the Center of the Universe aka Toronto for that matter either. It is just a game where big boys get to play with real toys instead of their discarded cap guns. Just as much fun - for those in their late 50's, early 60's it used to be when we were kids taking on the Nazi's and Japs, and riding the trails with Roy Rogers and Gene Autry now we punch holes in targets with real guns.
The difference between men and boys is the cost of their toys.
Take Care
Bob
I can't see where extending the revolver division out to 5" or less for Canadian shoots would pose much of a problem. IDPA clubs could just do it. I can't imagine the world would lose much sleep if two compeitors duked it out in a revolver division in a local match in Terrace with 5" guns. Hell most of the real world wouldn't care if the match was held in the Center of the Universe aka Toronto for that matter either. It is just a game where big boys get to play with real toys instead of their discarded cap guns. Just as much fun - for those in their late 50's, early 60's it used to be when we were kids taking on the Nazi's and Japs, and riding the trails with Roy Rogers and Gene Autry now we punch holes in targets with real guns.
The difference between men and boys is the cost of their toys.
Take Care
Bob
As I am not a revolver shooter, I expect that all the IDPA reps should email me their arguement on this issue, in order for me to make a fair ruling. After I have all the fact/opinions I will set the rule for all of us. I will run things by HQ first to get their take on it. Keep in mind that any rulings we make here in Canada will not effect other Countries.
Steve
Steve
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IDPA allows the shooters to obey the laws of their respective country.
As a lot, if not most, shooters are not 12(6), they allow 5" and 6" barrels. But they are only allowed to shoot them in their own country and not in the US. Unless I can pick up a 4" 625, I can't shoot my 5" 625 in the US. I can shoot my 2 1/2" and 4" 686's.
I really is a non issue, as it allows everyone to shoot regardless of their status. This is a good thing, don't you agree?
IDPA allows the shooters to obey the laws of their respective country.
As a lot, if not most, shooters are not 12(6), they allow 5" and 6" barrels. But they are only allowed to shoot them in their own country and not in the US. Unless I can pick up a 4" 625, I can't shoot my 5" 625 in the US. I can shoot my 2 1/2" and 4" 686's.
I really is a non issue, as it allows everyone to shoot regardless of their status. This is a good thing, don't you agree?
RePete said:
Sorry, but no I don't. As I mentioned earlier, I think one or two
inches of extra sight radius is a significant advantage particularly in Stage 3 of the classifier. So it's unfair and also would not give an accurate classification.Secondly, the maximum barrel length allowed in SSR and ESR is 4.2". Well, last time I checked, that's greater than 105mm! If someone is determined to shoot in either of those Divisions and they're not 12(6), then a gunsmith can shorten the barrel of their revolver to 4.2"......
As Bob mentioned earlier, even in the US, ESR and SSR are not well represented. At the Florida State Championships that I competed in a few weeks ago there were two shooters in each revolver division (out of a total of approx 150 shooters). At the Arizona State Championships that I just got back from, there was one revolver shooter (can't recall if he shot SSR or ESR) out of almost the same number of shooters.
I don't think we should compromise on this issue........ (it's a slippery slope)
Having said that, as as a rep and very active competitor in IDPA what do you say that we stop #####ing about the rules on a public form and bring this into a private dissusion. As you guys are the one's that will make the rule in Canada, why don't we just get on with it!
Email me your arguments!!!
Steve
Email me your arguments!!!
Steve
