Looking for clubs to start up IDPA!

Hi Guys,

Just signed back on and can't believe what I am reading. I have never or would never bash other disiplines, I shoot other things beside IDPA. I Challenge anyone to search my threads and disprove what I am saying. However, if you are interested in shooting IDPA, come out and give it a try. If not that is fine too. Please do not fill this thread up with petty crap like a bunch of 10 year olds. I can not believe the things people will say on the net!!!!

Steve
 
I have to agree with SteveS. This thread seems to be going the way of the one that was posted inviting anyone to take the CDP course a month or so back. How did this go from a thread about getting involved in IDAP to other discipline bashing? I do not see were SteveS "BASHED" other disciplines. If you want to encourage you club to get involved, if not, then don't, it is as simple as that.
 
Ahem........

Let me quote the offending passage again................


SteveS said:
Also, unlike some courses which are offered and by virtue of the insane course charge, you are walking away with a qualification just because you showed up, IDPA courses will be run with strict attention paid to Safety and the course training plan.
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IT CANNOT BE CLEARER!

I understand that SteveS did not INTEND to cast disrepute on any other group, club, organization. But that does not take away from the fact that it is exaclty what he did.

However do to the ill chosen words it is up to the reader to determine which group is being flamed. I happen to shoot IPSC and have shot PPC so it is natural that I read the quoted passage to be a slam against one or both of them.

If there is another possible explanation of those words or if Steve would like to retract them......it would be much better.
 
I shoot all of said disciplines, and on the insane pirce issue, I think he is correct, IPSC compaired to the CDP or PPC course is quite a bit of money! That being said, I do disagree about one being able to walk away with a qualification just because you showed up. I have never heard of that happening, but I really do not see that as bashing Storm, that is one persons opinion, nothing more! I am sure there are more who feel the same, I have read it here and also about all disciplines many times before. This is not the first time and won't be the last. I do nto think that SteveS meant anything offensive by wording it that way.
 
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OK, I'll try to explain one more time and I'll type slow so you can understand. I currently shoot IDPA and CDP, I am a RO and instructor in both disiplines. I shot IPSC since the early 80's, mainly in Europe, but as the nasty Kosovars left a little mine on a road for me a few years ago I can no longer keep up with the fast pace of IPSC. (although I would like to). I don't shoot PPC because I suck with a revolver, although Re-pete is determined to teach me. I think I have taken just about every course out there and I enjoyed them all, however my point is, there are some people out there teaching at a substandard level, I know this because I have been teaching firearms training for about 25 years. If you can honestly tell me that you have never been disapointed by a course you have attended, I truely would be shocked. I intend to get people involved in IDPA because I think it is a hoot, its inexpensive, and I am having a great time with it. Some of my best friends shoot CDP, IPSC, and PPC and we still hang out. Please do not try to stir up S**T on this thread, as there are people out there that really don't want to read it.

Thanks Steve

P.S. Thanks Steve D for stepping in and trying to make sense of this
 
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SteveS said:
OK, I'll try to explain one more time and I'll type slow so you can understand.
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Well that is about where I stopped reading.........................:mad:

SD: The bashing part comes into play when one indicates that other shooting sports do not care about the safety of their shooters. You do not get to have lower blows in my book money be damned.


Steve David said:
I I do nto think that SteveS meant anything offensive by wording it that way.
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I agree...........he is just REALLY bad at writing! He elected to head into purposeful offending above...........predictable.
 
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Could you not at least have come up with something original?

I mean really...........honestly that is it?

I take it that you will not retract the statement you made with reference to other sports (pick which ever you like) not being concerned with safety?

You are not going to admit to using ill-chosen words??

That speaks VOLUMES!

You know I have echanged PMs and had an actual phone conversation with people whom I have met and have the greatest respect for. Both indicated that you were a stand up guy and had good intentions...
Then I read the crap you spewed above....

Soo...........I guess my two contacts are greatly mistaken. Or you are really REALLY challenged when it comes to expressing yourself in written form.
 
Listen Storm,

I'm not sure what this is all about, I an just having a little fun with it. I did not mean to slight you in any way. Maybe you really did not read some of my posts. I am sorry if you are offended by something I have said. I am not sure what to retract. All I wanted to do was get some people out shooting and train them for free. Once again, I am sorry, Are we OK!

Steve
 
Whew!
That is a breath of fresh air!

Steve...the only problem I have is the part I quoted twice above.

If you would be so kind as to retract, clarify or expand on it............I would be EVER so happy!

I agree that things have gotten off the rails.........lets WORK together to get it back on track.

Here is the quote I am concerned with..

SteveS said:
Also, unlike some courses which are offered and by virtue of the insane course charge, you are walking away with a qualification just because you showed up, IDPA courses will be run with strict attention paid to Safety and the course training plan.
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Geeez Storm, you seem to be the only person having a problem with this... noone other that you seemed to have been offended.

There are shooting disciplines other than IPSC, if you feel that everything written has to do with IPSC, then I feel sorry for you.

Give the Moderator 3 Cheers for taking this thread off tract... its almost "Trollish"
 
The course that SteveS is referring to was a CSSA course that both myself and him as well as a bunch of others were on and it was a very badly instructed course. You really did just have to be there to get the qualification. It was not a course specific to any particular shooting sport but a general one. There were people on there that failed!!!! the written portion of the test (which was a very basic test) and they were still given the qualification.
 
Popurhedoff said:
Geeez Storm, you seem to be the only person having a problem with this... noone other that you seemed to have been offended.

There are shooting disciplines other than IPSC, if you feel that everything written has to do with IPSC, then I feel sorry for you.

Give the Moderator 3 Cheers for taking this thread off tract... its almost "Trollish"
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Pops you need to review this thread in its entirely.

Pay particular attention to the section I have quoted THREE TIMES NOW!

Also pay attention to the point where I said that ANY competative shooting organization, club or group could be considered the target of SteveS's post. I said for EXAMPLE that IPSC COULD the the target.

Please be so kind as to translate what was said in the quoted portion for this troll.



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Hey...........time lag while posting is terrible.

Willysman has filled in the information required!!

Now it is CLEAR what the intended target of the quoted section was directed at.

See.........it was easy afterall!


Now...............if it is as described it is indeed a disturbing factoid.
 
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Storm,

You said that "ANY competative shooting organization, club or group could be considered the target of SteveS's post", but Popurheadoff is right, you are the only one in this thread who has taken offence to this. SteveS has not targeted anyone, he merely stated a fact about a course he has taken, and he did not say what course it was, so speculation is not warranted here and I do not think he meant anything personal and he has said that, what more do you want him to say?
 
So anyway now that that has been cleared up lets get back to the regularly sheduled program on here and talk about clubs signing up for IDPA.

I just got back into shooting this past year after a 13 year hiatus due to various reasons. I am planning on doing my BB and shooting IPSC but as well plan on continuing with the IDPA as it is a lot of fun to shoot and the goroup of guys that I shoot with are a great bunch of people. As far as I am concerned any excuse to send lead downrange is a good one so the more sports the better for all
 
Hi Storm,

Ok I'll try to explain myself. Today I spent about 10 hours training the military experts how to shoot, and how to run realistic courses of fire that will help them with thier endevours in Afghanistan. This weekend I will likely shoot or run an IDPA match, I know where the line is, at least for me. Today was my Job and on the weekend it will be my hobby. I Don't want to charge people in my hobby to have fun which is why I am so into IDPA. I understand that some people are making a little on the side teaching firearms courses, and everyone has the right to do that. What I meant by my comment is that, I believe that when a considerable amount of money is charged for a course, the people running the course may feel compelled to give the person taking the course the qualification, maybe I am right out of it, but if I charged someone a couple hundred dollars for a course and I could not train them, I would probably give them thier money back. With IDPA we are not charging anything, not even our own expenses, so I was trying to relay to people that just because the training is free, it is not worthless, we will put the same effort and dedication into the training that we do for our service members heading into harms way. Also I was trying to relay that we will not qualify someone who does not deserve it, rather we will work with them and get them on another course when they have more experience, hence we are starting with established RO's in the beginning. As I stated, RO's from other disiplines, as I think I mentioned. So if I had no respect for other disiplines, I certainly would not have made that comment. Hey, I love to shoot, and I love to to teach and get others involved in shooting. I hope that this clears things up a bit, remember I was only poking a bit of fun. I hope we get to shoot together sometime, because you , me, repete, tritium, popurehedoff, and a few of the others would definitely be a distraction in the background activity area.

Steve
 
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Well Said Steve!!!

I hope to be up in your neck of the woods this summer.

If things work out time wise I will try to fit in one of your matches! They do sound like fun! Mind you so do those zombie killing sprees that Reaper organizes!!


I will consider the matter closed.........well until we can open a bottle!!
 
Hey Guys,

While I was writting my long winded note, a few more posts were entered. I know Willeyman is trying to stick up for me, but lets not start naming names or bashing orgaizations. I try not to mention anything like that....ever, which is why I was hesitant to elaborate on Storms question. Now that the cats out of the bag I can understand where Storm was coming from. I wish I had kept my big mouth shut. Lighten up guys, we are all in this together.


I am Sory, I will change, If I have to.


Steve
 
SteveS, not needed in my opinion but well said, that is what I read into it from the beginning! You and I need to talk about IDPA sometime. Tritium and I were talking a few weeks ago and I think you and I sould talk.

Steve
 
Hey Steve D,

Like I said earlier, I have been involved with CDP since it was CDPA, a great bunch of guys, Some still shoot CDP and IDPA. Some are still stuck in one or the other. I would have no problem traveling to shoot a CDP match anywhere in Ontario, unfortunately because of my position as a Rep for IDPA I have to follow thier rules with regards to only allowing a person who is not a member of IDPA to be only allowed to fire one match as a guest. When you think about it though, it is a fair rule considering that they will supply you with all your training for free, or for the price of a membership. Also they frown intensely at making any more money than is absolutey required to run the matches or perform repairs/upgrades to affiliated clubs. The last time I was talking to IDPA HQ, I told them that CDP has probably been the best thing that has happened to them as far as Canada goes, as it has really sparked an interest in the action shooting community. Feel free to Email me at sshirley@sympatico if you want to talk or I will PM you my phone number if you would like to call.

Steve


Steve
 
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