prosper said:
I think he used whatever he could get his hands on, including the 6.5x54MS.
William Dalrymple Maitland Bell spent some time in Canada, meat hunting for miners.
http://www.african-hunter.com/6_5_x_54_mannlicher-schoenauer.htm
Looking for ideas for a big bore hunting rifle
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I think he used whatever he could get his hands on, including the 6.5x54MS.
William Dalrymple Maitland Bell spent some time in Canada, meat hunting for miners.
http://www.african-hunter.com/6_5_x_54_mannlicher-schoenauer.htm
Well, you have to load powder as well as a primer.Win/64 said:
Then you're good to go.(In the now-infamous Jan. 2004 Rifle Mag. article, Brian Pearce took a Cape Buff at around 100 yds. with a Marlin 45-70 loaded with Cor-Bon 405 gr. @ 1800 fps. Not a calibre recommended by African PH's but it worked.)
Stuart
naugler said:
what are you going to be doing with it? and what is your budget? it is blasphemy but you might be better off playing with the toys you already have.
but....i would say look for a used rifle in 375 H&H, it has about the most economical factory ammo of anything i would consider a "big bore". as to a make, i would think a post 64 winchester or a remington 700 would be the cheapest on the used market. although in years gone by i have seen some smoking deals on used 458 winchesters that the owners shot a few times and got tired off, but these deals seem to be fewer and farther in between since most people have access to the internet and sites like this.
or if you simply want a big hole in the barrel, maybe look for a lever action in 44 mag.
I have 3 primary hunting rifles. The fact that they are all Belgium Brownings is not relevant to this thread. What is , is that they are in 30-06, 35 Whellen & 338 Win Mag and the one I always seem to have in hand is the 35. I get the best accuracy with hand loads but best trajectory with Federals 225 grain TBBC factory loads. I have taken moose with this rifle from 60 to 400 yards and it has worked great. The only bullet that I have recoverd was a 250 grain hornady R/N home load that went from one end of a 410 pound black bear to the other, it entered just under his chin, went through the pelvis and stopped against the hide of his butt. I have no complaints with the other 2 calibers, but have grown very fond of the 35 Whellen. The Remington 700 CD in 35 Whellen looks nice.
Yes it did, Bell loved it with long 160 grn round nose bullets for brain shooting elephants!Win/64 said:
He also used a single shot 303 Martini but did not like the 174 grn bullets. he did like the 215 grn round noses.
Later when the 375 H&H came out he said that he would have shot twice the elephants that he did with the other rifles.
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naugler:
You are asking for a lot:
1) A large caliber rifle (> .308) in a budget
2) Preferred no handloading.
From a costing standpoint, there is not much you can consider other than 30-06 or 300WM if you are on a budget. Keep in mind that large caliber rifles require more practice and more ammo cost. I think you should consider handloading.
Not knowing what you are planning to use the rufle for, it is hard to recommend anthing.
Danny
You are asking for a lot:
1) A large caliber rifle (> .308) in a budget
2) Preferred no handloading.
From a costing standpoint, there is not much you can consider other than 30-06 or 300WM if you are on a budget. Keep in mind that large caliber rifles require more practice and more ammo cost. I think you should consider handloading.
Not knowing what you are planning to use the rufle for, it is hard to recommend anthing.
Danny
darkman said:
Wholesale sells .375 H&H Federal Power shock for $37.00 in 270 and 300 grain.That's not that bad, but of course handloading is the way to go. I thought that I saw something going for even less, but my memory is falible.
ben hunchak said:
Yeah, for a large bore and a small cost, the single shot NEF in 45/70 is hard to beat: 255,99$ at Sir.
http://sirmailorder.ca/show_prod.ph...30&PHPSESSID=6024660581246d78ca715baaf5fb8e56
There are many other options in large bores, but they'll probably put a dent in your budget...
Mystic Precision
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Big Bore = 45cal to me in a factory rifle. From here, you can go 45LC (light or heavy) in a small lever action. To a 45-70 (light or heavy) or 450Marlin. Then 458Win. Finally, 458Lott cause you just can't have enough gun.
If you are more to the traditional styles, all the 45 cigar shaped black powder (now smokeless) cartridges like the 45-90 to 45-120.
The 44 is also an interesting cal so you could go 44mag (light to heavy), then 444Marlin.
Jerry
If you are more to the traditional styles, all the 45 cigar shaped black powder (now smokeless) cartridges like the 45-90 to 45-120.
The 44 is also an interesting cal so you could go 44mag (light to heavy), then 444Marlin.
Jerry
BigUglyMan
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Lots of real estate north of 30 cal. Depends what you're hunting and how much you like having the stuffing kicked out of you. Possibilities are damn near endless.
brno375 said:
I didn't know that, 'course I've never seen a B.C. record book either. I do know he was born in Scotland, lived in Canada and fought with the Canadian Cavalry in the Boer war. Was the "greatest of the elephant hunters" a Canadian? His life total was supposed to be 1011 elephants.
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Dogleg said:
i don't think he was a canadian citizen (was there such a thing as canadian citizenship at that time?).
IIRC, he had spent time in africa, then found his way to the yukon gold rush where he figured out that he was better suited to hunting meat for the prospectors than he was at finding gold. when the boer war broke out, he used the chance to get back to africa with the canadian contingent.
i believe he also spent time in australia. then in WWI was stationed in africa as well as in salonika (sp?) in greece.
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mysticplayer said:
My vote goes to the .444 with LEVERevolution ammo.
Beat this at 100yds .... thats a quarter btw
