Looking for precision 10/22 build advice

just out of sheer curiosity, is it cheaper to build your rifle or just go and find a Kidd supergrade on gunbroker?
Depends on the parts you ultimately want. eg.. the stock I run is dirt cheap.... a fancy chassis is big money. Maybe a used rifle has the pricey bits you want at a lower price???? Maybe it has a nice list of fancy parts that don't work well together and why it is being sold off?????

no one can answer that as there are so many possible outcomes.

For simplicity, get it from the manf off the shelf with support and warranty. Or learn to assemble and tune as needed (if needed).

and run quality lot tested match ammo through it

Jerry
 
just out of sheer curiosity, is it cheaper to build your rifle or just go and find a Kidd supergrade on gunbroker?


Just priced out a new 10/22 I really want to build on the weekend.

No glass, before taxes and shipping costs. $2,172 This is all high end parts, wood stock.

Kidd supergrade ultralightweight sporter: $2,629.00 plus tax/shiping. So in the end mine would come out pretty much the same after all was said and done.

I have no doubt my custom would shoot as well at the supergrade, but the super grade would be quicker to acquire, but would not have the same appeal in the end. Plus the thought of putting it all together just has an appeal that you can not buy.

My custom would be "blue" themed with stainless pcs: Blue carbon barrel, blue stock, blue mags, blue mag release.

The kidd: Just plain jane black.
 
Got my first 10/22 in 1966 in Mackenzie B.C. , still have it , shots 1" at 50 yds now with my old eyes . That started the addiction , now have 58 of the little demons . 5 I've done builds on & can put 10 in the bull at 75 covered by a quarter , the rest are collectables , a few of the laser etched ones & the anniversary editions . Even have a lefty from the custom shop just because ! Build away to your hearts content , also don't cheep on the scope , bad glass would suck large time !
 
Hopefully people on here realize your knowledge and expertise in building awesome shooting 10/22 platform rifles. I would love to see you build a ground up rifle with all the custom parts Ive used. Im fully aware of what youve done on the cheap. Not in any way saying you havent achieved incredible results as I know you have. I would just enjoy seeing a skilled individual with your experience and knowledge building a ground up SUPER CUSTOM rifle out of all high end premium components!! I would also like to try one of your M pods. Looks like the deal from bench or ground. Have heard great reviews and love supporting innovative Canucks. PM me for EMT info and shipping address. Would love to meet you and fire some rounds down range. Kindah on my bucket list
SHOOT forgot to qoute MYSTIC PRECISION
 
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Just priced out a new 10/22 I really want to build on the weekend.

No glass, before taxes and shipping costs. $2,172 This is all high end parts, wood stock.

Kidd supergrade ultralightweight sporter: $2,629.00 plus tax/shiping. So in the end mine would come out pretty much the same after all was said and done.

I have no doubt my custom would shoot as well at the supergrade, but the super grade would be quicker to acquire, but would not have the same appeal in the end. Plus the thought of putting it all together just has an appeal that you can not buy.

My custom would be "blue" themed with stainless pcs: Blue carbon barrel, blue stock, blue mags, blue mag release.

The kidd: Just plain jane black.
Mine is GREEN with envy haha
 
Hopefully people on here realize your knowledge and expertise in building awesome shooting 10/22 platform rifles. I would love to see you build a ground up rifle with all the custom parts Ive used. Im fully aware of what youve done on the cheap. Not in any way saying you havent achieved incredible results as I know you have. I would just enjoy seeing a skilled individual with your experience and knowledge building a ground up SUPER CUSTOM rifle out of all high end premium components!! I would also like to try one of your M pods. Looks like the deal from bench or ground. Have heard great reviews and love supporting innovative Canucks. PM me for EMT info and shipping address. Would love to meet you and fire some rounds down range. Kindah on my bucket list
SHOOT forgot to qoute MYSTIC PRECISION


I use Mystic's Mpod on my anschutz 1727, and it is nice.

I think I'm with you on that one Longstud, about Jerry building a custom. I have read a bit of his other rifle shooting platforms he does.
I have read and heard about all sorts of his "cheap" builds that he tweeks and are shooters. Would love to hear about some of the custom 10/22's.

My first scope was purchased from Mystic because of his reviews on them. The sightron STAC.
 
I use Mystic's Mpod on my anschutz 1727, and it is nice.

I think I'm with you on that one Longstud, about Jerry building a custom. I have read a bit of his other rifle shooting platforms he does.
I have read and heard about all sorts of his "cheap" builds that he tweeks and are shooters. Would love to hear about some of the custom 10/22's.

My first scope was purchased from Mystic because of his reviews on them. The sightron STAC.
In Laymans terms he produces Silk Purses out of Sows Ears. Id love to see his results with a complete custom build and his expertise. Your S Tac is a highly under rated optic in my opinion. Ive owned just about everything cuz Im old and like nice stuff. The Sightron is great value for the price and the glass is very nice quality. Great Bang for the Buck. He has won quite a few medals with his Jerrystein 22s. He knows how to make things shoot. Also has a lot to do with the operator.
 
Hopefully people on here realize your knowledge and expertise in building awesome shooting 10/22 platform rifles. I would love to see you build a ground up rifle with all the custom parts Ive used. Im fully aware of what youve done on the cheap. Not in any way saying you havent achieved incredible results as I know you have. I would just enjoy seeing a skilled individual with your experience and knowledge building a ground up SUPER CUSTOM rifle out of all high end premium components!! I would also like to try one of your M pods. Looks like the deal from bench or ground. Have heard great reviews and love supporting innovative Canucks. PM me for EMT info and shipping address. Would love to meet you and fire some rounds down range. Kindah on my bucket list
SHOOT forgot to qoute MYSTIC PRECISION
Appreciate your kind words...

The benefit of custom parts is to reduce the chance for out of spec parts. Exterior design and finishes can really improve the 'curb appeal' but that is not where accuracy is found. Surface finishes on the bolt and interior of the receiver can really help with maintenance (nitriding the bolt is nice) and reduce the chance of lube related issues... but as long as factory or custom function at 100%, that is all you can hope for.

A great place to experiment is in chambers... there is a balance between accuracy potential and function. For shooter with deep pockets, happy to offer my advice in the experiment.

I think my best service was in proper bedding of the barreled action. Unfortunately, inletting tends to be dimensionally generous in most stocks/chassis.

Longstud, you can email me at mysticprecision@gmail.com. Happy to get you set up with an MPOD at a great price. If coming to the OK valley, please do give me a shout. Best time of year is May/June/Sept.

Jerry
 
I’ll be travelling to Saskatchewan later this year for some vermin extermination with a couple other members from the Nutz community. I think your M pod will be perfect and will report with pics of it being used. Thanks
 
Look forward to your email and will get you set up.

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Customers rifle - McGowen CF wrapped barrel. Aftermarket receiver and bits.

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My rifle.. McGowen match barrel and factory action. Taken before the rotary safety install.
 
Assume you are asking me? I run Athlon optics with my fave being the Helos BTR Gen2 6-24X56 FFP Mil. Pictured on the Red rifle is likely an Ares ETR 4.5-30X56... I ran these for a few years but have switched to the Helos now

For the tuner, a tuna can is on both rifles. I use other options including muzzle brakes and stuff I make up. Full size Tuna can has enough weight to affect the typical 0.9 to 1" barrel. Well made and easy to use.

Jerry
 
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Update for anybody still following, I ended up picking this up for a good deal so this is where I’ll be starting from.
Kidd 19.5” SS Bull barrel
Dar 22 receiver
Kidd 2 stage trigger (extremely light)
Magpul stock
Unsure of what bolt is in it, the fella I got it from didn’t know and I haven’t had it apart yet. (need some new punches if anybody’s got any recommendations on a decent set)
Threw a vortex diamondback tactical 4-16x44 ffp on it from another rifle for the time being.
 

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Update for anybody still following, I ended up picking this up for a good deal so this is where I’ll be starting from.
Kidd 19.5” SS Bull barrel
Dar 22 receiver
Kidd 2 stage trigger (extremely light)
Magpul stock
Unsure of what bolt is in it, the fella I got it from didn’t know and I haven’t had it apart yet. (need some new punches if anybody’s got any recommendations on a decent set)
Threw a vortex diamondback tactical 4-16x44 ffp on it from another rifle for the time being.
Excellent start, the Kidd barrel and especially the trigger are phenomenal. Get some good ammo and go play.
 
That is the plan! Can’t wait! Also looking forward to shooting with this trigger, I’ve never felt one so light.
You have the Rolls Royce of triggers and a fantastic barrel. Pick up a few boxes of quality target ammo and experiment with what shoots best. Don’t just try 5 or ten but rather shoot 10 5 shot groups and compare the overall average. If you happen upon a type that shoots really well then buy as much of that lot number you can. Congrats and enjoy the ride
 
You have the Rolls Royce of triggers and a fantastic barrel. Pick up a few boxes of quality target ammo and experiment with what shoots best. Don’t just try 5 or ten but rather shoot 10 5 shot groups and compare the overall average. If you happen upon a type that shoots really well then buy as much of that lot number you can. Congrats and enjoy the ride
I appreciate all the help!
 
You may want to look into bedding that action/stock before investing too much in shooting.

If the inletting is just factory magpul stock, odds are it is generous. if there is some bedding compound in there, install the barreled action and it should sit level and not wiggle around WITHOUT the action bolt secured.

Also, from the colour variation of the action in the pic, I assume it is oiled... poor bedding, a coat of oil... things are going to wiggle and that will not lead to good results.

When it gets properly bedded, I would strongly recommend to never spray oil on the action... it will seep into the bedding and mess up all that hard work. If you must, wipe the surface with an oiled towel to prevent corrosion. Under the stock line, I would degrease the receiver to ensure a squeaky clean contact with the bedding.

Same when lubing the bolt. Oil goes anywhere and everywhere and the last place you want it is in the bedding

Any chance the previous owner knew what chamber came in the barrel?

Jerry
 
The torque on the action bolt can make a difference in groups as well. I use a titanium bolt and found 30 inch pounds works best in my McMillan cf stock! Don’t tighten like a centerfire rifle because most receivers are aluminum and a strip, which is fixable but best to avoid.
 
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