This is why people run away from forums, others telling them how they should think and that their way is the only right way. I have enough respect for nature to not risk a shot like that. BUT I want a gun capable of it because my hidden ranges are about 2 km in length. This also proves a point about natural human response, always take the worst possible solution.
Well, no matter what the readers suggest if someone is going to partake of long range hunting it will be their choice and won't be anything you can do when it comes down to that time when they pull the trigger and decide to shoot.
Most people in the world have taken shots they shouldn't have, it just happens.
If long range target and some modest hunting distances is in your plans then you have many options in the 6.5mm , 7mm , 7.62mm chamberings.
If long range hunting is going to be on the table then you are going to have to look at something that isn't a very nice target/bench gun to get the desired performance to down game.You will need high BC bullets in front of a fair amount of powder.I'd guess that a 300WM or similar with quality bullets would be a reasonable starting point.
I'm not giving a positive or negative view on the long range thing , only the shooter knows their capabilities.
Thank you for your honest response. I was also thinking 300 win mag as well. So what you are saying is I can't have a gun that will be decent at both target/bench shooting and hunting?
Blah blah unethical, blah blah not hunting, blah blah stalk closer, blah blah blah blarrrgggghhhh.
Now that we have that garbage out of our systems and the naysayers have made their Internet-#####es one post longer let's actually discuss what the OP is asking about.
There are several long range options available that will ring steel or kill deer, moose or elk at 1000 yards. Personally my long range rifle is a 300 WM that I had built by ATRS a few years ago. The 7mm is also a good option and I've shot the Old Man's RMR 7mag and it's a very capable platform too. The real key to successful LR shooting is having a tool capable of meeting your expectations and the skill to make use of that tool. I recommend talking to a builder that specializes in LR precision rifles to determine what will fit your needs best. Successful and ethical LR shooting can be achieved with the correct employment of equipment and skill, both of which are obtainable should you care to put in the effort. Call Rick at ATRS and talk over what you want to achieve and from there you can working developing the required skill to achieve your goals.
No one can tell another what they are or are not capable of when it comes to long range shooting. Only the person behind the rifle truly knows what they are capable of and must live with the consequences of their decisions.
As Yeats wrote, and can also be applied to the long range shooting debate;
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
Again thank you for not just jumping to the worst possible conclusion and actually answering my question. I thought about contacting ATRS but he is quite expensive so that is one of my concerns. Yes i know its a have your cake and eat it too but I'd like to try
Between the 7mm and 300 WM, which one has better performance in the wind?
Had one, I think it's a bit too powerful of a cartridge for hunting personally But i might walk down that road again.
Of course it's all about YOU. F**k the naysayers. They'r jealous 'cuz they just can't shoot accurately any farther than they can throw a rock. Do whatever you feel like doing as long as its not illegal.
There is no such thing as ethics, that's for p***ies!! A man with a rifle should be able to kill whatever he sees. You have the power, so wield it! C'mon be a MAN stalking close is for those too lazy to practice and develop real shooting skills. All you need is a super duper heavy barrel whizzum ultra magnum and 24 power tacticool scope and a rangefinder and a wind meter and a computer and a ballistics program and a spotter with a radio to help you dial in and target turrets and VLD bullets and tons of trigger time and a proper field bench rest and sand bags and a vibration dampening barrel harmonics balancer and a spotting scope and a muzzle brake and a good off road rig to haul all your stuff. You don't really need to know how to hunt elk at all, you just need to shoot what you see, they certainly can't sense you at 1000 yds so no worries! Please make sure to get it all on video with the kill cam and post it on Youtube! Elk are just another kind of target. Nobody hangs a steel plate or a paper target on the living room wall to brag about, you need some antlers! If you have a big enough rifle and your bullets are going fast enough it will all be "bang- flops" No need to do any messy tracking and following up of wounded game 'cuz your rifle and shooting skills will be so awesome that nothing can live for long that you aim at. Just go have fun. Any other opinion is just Blah Blah Blah. They all have small #####es too!
first off, LOL thats hilarious and yes i will no scope at 1000 yds, that's my final goal.
secondly, a couple things you should know about me, 1) I only hunt for the meat, i could really care less about the rack size or anything worth bragging about. I want jerky lol. 2) I think that trophy hunting is ridiculous as a whole. "look me man, i must hang head of helpless creature on wall" I get the thrill of the hunt and having something to remember it by (i'd love a bear skin rug) But when it becomes a contest of destruction, thats when i dont understand it.
338 makes most people flinch they don't shoot them well .
Better to shoot without the flinch
Hunting happens in fractions of seconds
You need to be as light as possible
But as heavy for the range .
It must be the balance .
338 is not the answer
My 7 mm has taken animals every year for 30 years
I'm going lighter not heavy
I'm definitely leaning towards a 7mm, but never have shot one. I think it will be my next rifle though. Any suggestions on rifles?
