low recoil 25 cal

MiG25 said:
Coyotes and deer and kids shooting.
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As much a I like the 257R, I think a 243 is a better practical choice for your needs.

It offers low recoil, far better rifle and ammo selection, easier brass to find, lots of bullets and very similar ballistics.
 
MiG25 said:
How about if I use the 22-250 case as a base?
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Here is a picture of a 22-250 necked up to 25 calibre next to a standard 22-250.

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I have a Ruger M77 I got in 1976 in 250-3000. Taken lots of deer and coyotes with it. 100 g for deer and 87 for yotes. Can watch the bullet hit the recoil is that mild.
 
bushwhacker said:
Advantage of the .25 is ability to handle heavier bullets than the .243 for deer sized game. I even shot a moose with one. That precludes selecting a barrel with fast enough twist. This was a drawback on some of the 250-300's. The 257 will handle up to .125Gr.
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You need to be careful with this one though, especially when handloading. In a short action you have to seat pretty far into the case with anything over 100 gr. in order for things to feed properly from the magazine (my kimber Montana and a win model 70 I had were both this way). If you're only going to be able to push a 100gr bullet fast you may as well stick with a .243. My Ruger 77mk2 is a long action - and I can seat 117gr sst's long enough to be nipping on the heels of a .25-06. You could load heavy bullets in a short action but you'll limit powder volume. You mileage may vary but that's been my experience so far.
 
ndallyn said:
You need to be careful with this one though, especially when handloading. In a short action you have to seat pretty far into the case with anything over 100 gr. in order for things to feed properly from the magazine (my kimber Montana and a win model 70 I had were both this way). If you're only going to be able to push a 100gr bullet fast you may as well stick with a .243. My Ruger 77mk2 is a long action - and I can seat 117gr sst's long enough to be nipping on the heels of a .25-06. You could load heavy bullets in a short action but you'll limit powder volume. You mileage may vary but that's been my experience so far.
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Correct ..... 2.8" is about max in a short action. I had mine built by Bevan King on a 700 long action.

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If you are doing a custom quarter-bore, there are alot of very good reasons to do a .25 Souper... that is the way that I would go. Personally the Roberts is my quarter-bore choice on an M77 MKII long action.
 
Then there's the .25 Humdinger ,a .243 case expanded to .25 with minimum body tapper and a 45 degree shoulder angle. Fits a SA and comes close to duplicating a 25-06 in a 23" pipe.Me I'd go with a .250 Savage with a 1-10 twist and a 24" barrel in a BA like my 700 Rem Classic.A 300 yard deer gun for sure with 100gr bullets...........Harold
 
I have shot quite a few caribou, a couple black bears, a wolf, and a few deer with a .250-3000 in a model 99a. The 1970's rifles had 1-10" twist barrels and I believe that is the best twist rate. I used both 87 and 100 grain Winchester factory loads as well as 100 grain Noslers for the bears. I really do like the little .250 and in a small bolt rifle the brass would last a bit better. Recoil is great.

I've never owned a .243 but it would likely do just as well but I decided years ago I didn't care for the round. Not every decision needs to me rational! I also have a CZ in 7.62x39 and my girls enjoy shooting it. I really think the recipe is a moderate cartridge that is accurate, has modest recoil so people shoot them well, and people don't try to shoot too far with them. I would never have considered buying a 7.62x39 a few years ago but the little CZ bolt gun changed all that and surplus practice ammo is so cheap, I only load hunting rounds. Make sure you glass bed it if you by a little CZ.

I would decide based on the rifle you prefer and your willingness to reload. Practice with the rifle and it will be an over achiever.
 
The CZ 527 in 7.62x39 is a great little 200 yard deer killer with handloads.........I also have a 99A in .250 /1-10"..........Harold
 
If your going to buy off the shelf, there isn't much in the way of low recoil .25 cal.

About the only part of a 8 3/4 to 9lb scoped .257 Weatherby on a Howa platform is that it's 25. cal . 9lb rifles make great kid guns............ NOT.

Howa does make a liteweight mini action chambered in 6.5 Grendell and 7.62x39. Both kid friendly.

CZ does as well.

Or .243 /7mm.08 . I recently purchsed a Savage light weight in 7mm-08 for my nephew 6lbs 8 oz scoped with a 2x7 .

Will load some low recoil loads with 100 and 120 gr bullets.

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22-250 necked up to 25 calibre
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Am I missing something here? Is this not a 250-3000? 30 whelen style joke that went over my head?


One of my flights of fancy is a mini action in 25/45 sharps or 6x45. Too many dream guns not enough money, should never have sold my k1 .243 cause I keep thinking about a short barreled one of those.
 
No one mentioned the .25-06

My Kimber Montana 84L in .25-06 was feather light and well balanced,
and the recoil very low ... similar to my 84M in .243

And if it is a consideration, factory .25-06 ammunition is available in every Cabelas for a reasonable price.
 
25/20
25/222 copperhead
25/45 sharps
25/35
250 savage
A step up is the
257 Roberts
25/08
25/06
257 wby
257 stw

There is also the 25 wssm which is just an ugly case and I'm not sure why anyone would spend the money on one with so many better options

I'm going to be putting together a 250 savage when I re barrel my 25/06 this coming winter. 250 for varmints the 25/06 for bigger game

I love the 25 cal
 
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