Lower power bushnell elite?

The Kurgan said:
I have/had several Japanese-made Elite 3500/4500/6500 series scopes. My favourite is the Elite 3500 2-7x32. Handy and bulletproof. I am always on the lookout for another. The "new old stock" has pretty much dried up now, though I know of at least one source that has 3-9x50 3500's for a very good price.

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That could only look better if the scope was glossy. I keep thinking about the m77 and that I don't have one... a nice international in 250, 257, 7mm-08 or 280 with a small scope in QR rings. Is it just me or is the Ruger 77 under rated/just under represented? The bluing I've seen on them has always been very deep.

MilitaryCollectorMark said:
Hey all!

I was wondering if bushnell made a scope like the leupold VX-3 2-8 by 36.

I'm looking to possibly get one or if there is anything that would be comparable to that.
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OkayShooter said:
They need to make more fixed powered scopes.
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I was questioning this lack sometime last year and apparently pedantic old traditionalists like me are an insignificant market share. I would argue that we really aren't, just the perception of consumers have changed from what they really need to what they think they need. The consequence is poorly informed people who think they need a scope for hunting <100y whitetail. This has also resulted in so few rifles having open sights (and that market being so small now)... same people think whitetail hunting is a snipers game and show up with ridiculous contraptions on their rifles. Well, if it's what you really want I don't care but the market is being ruined by inadequate thought in the same way democratic process is impaired by the galactically stupid. (the later isn't comparable really I know, it is a travesty) Actually I am glad these large choices exist: they are useful in other areas and can double here if that is the only option for someone.

About the only one I'm aware of that still manufactures a decent scope of this size is Leupold. But I think they wrapped up the VX 1,2,3 into the "Freedom" line? Non are glossy tube anymore.

Past manufacturers used to be everyone. I'm glad to have samples from Leupold, Bushnell, Nikon, (Old steel) Weaver fixed K4s so it has been reduced mostly to a used market at the moment. Burris apparently still makes the Scout 2-7x. Vortex makes the low end lines in that size (but I wouldn't get a Vortex that is less than the Viper). Not sure the origin of the Burris Scout but baseline to me is it better be made in Phillipines, Japan, NA or Europe... never been satisfied with a scope from China.
 
New Camper said:
That could only look better if the scope was glossy. I keep thinking about the m77 and that I don't have one... a nice international in 250, 257, 7mm-08 or 280 with a small scope in QR rings. Is it just me or is the Ruger 77 under rated/just under represented? The bluing I've seen on them has always been very deep.




I was questioning this lack sometime last year and apparently pedantic old traditionalists like me are an insignificant market share. I would argue that we really aren't, just the perception of consumers have changed from what they really need to what they think they need. The consequence is poorly informed people who think they need a scope for hunting <100y whitetail. This has also resulted in so few rifles having open sights (and that market being so small now)... same people think whitetail hunting is a snipers game and show up with ridiculous contraptions on their rifles. Well, if it's what you really want I don't care but the market is being ruined by inadequate thought in the same way democratic process is impaired by the galactically stupid. (the later isn't comparable really I know, it is a travesty) Actually I am glad these large choices exist: they are useful in other areas and can double here if that is the only option for someone.

About the only one I'm aware of that still manufactures a decent scope of this size is Leupold. But I think they wrapped up the VX 1,2,3 into the "Freedom" line? Non are glossy tube anymore.

Past manufacturers used to be everyone. I'm glad to have samples from Leupold, Bushnell, Nikon, (Old steel) Weaver fixed K4s so it has been reduced mostly to a used market at the moment. Burris apparently still makes the Scout 2-7x. Vortex makes the low end lines in that size (but I wouldn't get a Vortex that is less than the Viper). Not sure the origin of the Burris Scout but baseline to me is it better be made in Phillipines, Japan, NA or Europe... never been satisfied with a scope from China.
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I always found with variable, they make the zoom dial way too big and effects operation of the bolt. That was my case with my Mauser and the 1.5-5x32. I could only operate the bolt with 2 fingers.

I have both fixed and variable. I just like fixed as I normally just leave it at one power. As different zooms will effect the hold off needed for different ammo.
 
New Camper said:
That could only look better if the scope was glossy. I keep thinking about the m77 and that I don't have one... a nice international in 250, 257, 7mm-08 or 280 with a small scope in QR rings. Is it just me or is the Ruger 77 under rated/just under represented? The bluing I've seen on them has always been very deep.
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I think the M77's are top notch. I used to shy away from them, but now realize that the actions are super strong and build quality is very high. Mine's on my "do not sell" list. I got lucky with mine as it was NOS NIB 1991 manufacture date, in original box, sealed! Now that I scored a 7x57, I wouldn't mind one in 308 or 280.
 
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