LPVO for short-barreled .308?

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Greetings all,

I have a 16" barreled .308 that I would like to put a LPVO on (preferably illuminated). I have a Bushnell AR 1-6x on a .223, and am fairly pleased with that, but not sure if there are any other recommendations out there more specifically for the .308 cartridge? Budget is not the prime factor, but it is a factor.

Thanks in advance for any info, and apologies if this subject has been hashed out previously - I'm just returning to CGN after a few years away.

Cheers,

Neal
 
nelly said:
Greetings all,

I have a 16" barreled .308 that I would like to put a LPVO on (preferably illuminated). I have a Bushnell AR 1-6x on a .223, and am fairly pleased with that, but not sure if there are any other recommendations out there more specifically for the .308 cartridge? Budget is not the prime factor, but it is a factor.

Thanks in advance for any info, and apologies if this subject has been hashed out previously - I'm just returning to CGN after a few years away.

Cheers,

Neal
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If I could run an m305, she'd wear a primary arms acss raptor, .556/.308. I've never handled the bushnell but its likely comparable, proper reticle is important IMO.
 
Pick a scope for the rifles intended use, not the cartridge. What are you using it for will have more bearing on the magnification range as well as the reticle, at least it does for me.
 
Thanks for thoughts so far, folks.

An obvious question that I didn't ask, and the google-fu is weak with me today: Would one of the Bushnell AR series designed for .223 suffer any from recoil from a .308 bolt gun, with no gas system eating a little of the whack? I can't seem to find any reports online of anyone who has done same.

Cheers,

N
 
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I'm also a fan of the Primary Arms 1-6x scope, with the ACSS KISS reticle as it's fairly straightforward and the point of the chevron is a lot more precise than the dots in some of the other scopes (like the Strike Eagles or the Bushnell AR offerings). Some of the Athlon scopes may work out as well to give LPVO size but a finer reticle for accuracy. I'm also considering an Athlon prism scope, fixed 3x with a 2 MOA dot as a backup. Bringing two guns is good, two guns and a spare optic even better!
 
what is lvpo? what we called battue scope in the past?

i have bushnell illuminated ar and .300 caliber as well as german 4. i like all of them but i do not see the use of the 6 magnification. 1-4 is perfect for my use. but as a sniper i used only 3.75x so what do i know lol ...
 
NF (NX8) 1-8 x 24 is extremely rugged little scope. Weight by itself just under one pound. Clear optics.
Cons: it's a little pricey, eye box not the most generous.

If you can live with these two factors NF scopes are reliable, and mine seemingly never lose zero.
 
Absolutely love Athlon scopes, as suggested by Jerry at Mystic Precision. The warranty, quality, and features really give much more expensive scopes a real run for the money.

I have Bushnell scopes as well, but found Athlons really hard to beat all round.

https://www.amazon.ca/Athlon-215025...1_150?keywords=Athlon&qid=1637970315&sr=8-150

Was wanting a bit more magnification, but in reality I am not shooting paper at 500 yards like with my 24 power Athlon scope. Mostly out to 200 yards with a lower powered scope.
 
I've got a VORTEX VIPER PST 1-6X24 SFP on my .308 Ruger Scout rifle and one on my 6.5 Grendel bolty rifle.

I think it's a good optic and especially like the center red dot feature. On 1x it's like using a red dot for close and fast shooting and crank it up to 6x to stretch it out a bit. It's got a simple, easy to use reticle for bullet drop compensation. Many people would choose something like a Leupold 1.5-5 in the past but the new LPVO scopes really surpass the older low power scopes. There are great LPVO's coming out from a number of different companies.

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medvedqc said:
what is lvpo? what we called battue scope in the past?

i have bushnell illuminated ar and .300 caliber as well as german 4. i like all of them but i do not see the use of the 6 magnification. 1-4 is perfect for my use. but as a sniper i used only 3.75x so what do i know lol ...
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Yes, usually optics with less than a 2x lower magnification and no objective bell. I have the Bushnell 1-4 with the German #4 reticle - excellent hunting scope. I'm a huge fan of it, well-built, good quality, definitely worth the money. A lot of them have "tactical" reticles which usually feature a center dot, sometimes an outer ring, great for fast acquisition. I prefer a traditional BDC reticle though, more precision and I can calculate my holdovers based on ballistics and reticle subtensions, whip up a dope card and hit the fields.

I like the idea of a slightly higher upper magnification range, hunting public lands in Manitoba you can be pushing bush with maybe 20-30 yards of visibility one moment and the next you are standing in a hydro line corridor with hundreds of yards visible in either direction. 6x is just that little bit more in the same size package, some 8x as well. There are even 1-10x options out there.

At some point, you need to consider if 20-30 yard shots are typical and if it's more like 50, maybe a 3-9x is a better choice (and probably cheaper!) than a 1-8x or something. It's great having so much choice nowadays, but also can be trouble trying to find the perfect scope. If that Bushnell Prime was a 1-6x I'd probably own 3, for example :)
 
Gatehouse said:
I've got a VORTEX VIPER PST 1-6X24 SFP on my .308 Ruger Scout rifle and one on my 6.5 Grendel bolty rifle.

I think it's a good optic and especially like the center red dot feature. On 1x it's like using a red dot for close and fast shooting and crank it up to 6x to stretch it out a bit. It's got a simple, easy to use reticle for bullet drop compensation. Many people would choose something like a Leupold 1.5-5 in the past but the new LPVO scopes really surpass the older low power scopes. There are great LPVO's coming out from a number of different companies.

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Yeah, that's a great reticle for sure. Pretty much bang on what I'd go for, illuminated center dot and reference marks for ranging/hold over. Going to take a look at this one, for sure.

EDIT: Here's a few of the Athlon options I'm partial to:

https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/P...-Argos-BTR-Gen2-1-8-24-30mm-ATSR5-SFP-IR-MOA-
https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/P...thlon-Helos-BTR-Gen2-1-10x28-ATMR4-SFP-IR-MOA
 
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mikeyb said:
Yes, usually optics with less than a 2x lower magnification and no objective bell. I have the Bushnell 1-4 with the German #4 reticle - excellent hunting scope. I'm a huge fan of it, well-built, good quality, definitely worth the money. A lot of them have "tactical" reticles which usually feature a center dot, sometimes an outer ring, great for fast acquisition. I prefer a traditional BDC reticle though, more precision and I can calculate my holdovers based on ballistics and reticle subtensions, whip up a dope card and hit the fields.

I like the idea of a slightly higher upper magnification range, hunting public lands in Manitoba you can be pushing bush with maybe 20-30 yards of visibility one moment and the next you are standing in a hydro line corridor with hundreds of yards visible in either direction. 6x is just that little bit more in the same size package, some 8x as well. There are even 1-10x options out there.

At some point, you need to consider if 20-30 yard shots are typical and if it's more like 50, maybe a 3-9x is a better choice (and probably cheaper!) than a 1-8x or something. It's great having so much choice nowadays, but also can be trouble trying to find the perfect scope. If that Bushnell Prime was a 1-6x I'd probably own 3, for example :)
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i ve shot with the previous name called battue scope wild boar at 200 yards so i can understand the task of finding the never ending task ... for the perfect tool.
 
mikeyb said:
At some point, you need to consider if 20-30 yard shots are typical and if it's more like 50, maybe a 3-9x is a better choice (and probably cheaper!) than a 1-8x or something. It's great having so much choice nowadays, but also can be trouble trying to find the perfect scope. If that Bushnell Prime was a 1-6x I'd probably own 3, for example :)
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Good point about your typical ranges, I started to realize I shoot deer between 60-100y locally. The last couple years have been about 65-75y, the closest was 10-15y. I’ve really begun to love the 2-7x32 and 2.5-10x40 Nikon’s I have on two different rifles, they hit that sweet spot for me. The do all range I think for hunting would be a 1-10x or something close to that, or 2-12x or 14x for a combo of range and hunting. That would be a perfect mag range for everything I do with a rifle.
 
mikeyb said:
I'm also a fan of the Primary Arms 1-6x scope, with the ACSS KISS reticle as it's fairly straightforward and the point of the chevron is a lot more precise than the dots in some of the other scopes (like the Strike Eagles or the Bushnell AR offerings). Some of the Athlon scopes may work out as well to give LPVO size but a finer reticle for accuracy. I'm also considering an Athlon prism scope, fixed 3x with a 2 MOA dot as a backup. Bringing two guns is good, two guns and a spare optic even better!
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I've got the PA 1-6 as well with the Predator reticle, and a 3x prism with acss, both are very nice optics.
 
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