LW Mountain Rifle

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So i want to build another LW mountain rifle - please tell me how you would have it built using a Rem M7 action - the Cartridge will be a 6.5 Creedmoor ! Max weight is 6 lbs TOTAL with scope etc and with sling and 3 cartridges in it ! ;) Thks BUILD A WAY listing all the machine work - finish ! and parts to do it ALL ! Cost is not the object ! Light Weight and Durable is ! :d

Cheers RJ
 
Bartlein barrel #2 barrel, Manners Elite Hunter MCS-EH8 stock, maybe a Pacific Tool & Guage one piece bolt, ceracoated everything and in 6.5x47 to take advantage of the readily available high quality brass.
 
Kind of in the process of doing it with a 700.

For a Mod 7:
Wildcat Composites stock, #1 profile barrel of your choice 24", bolt machine work (if you know someone good PM me) and aluminum shroud/pin (they make them for the 7?) Talley X-low and Leupold 6x36mm w/ LR duplex (9.6 oz scope with excellent optics and eye relief.)
 
Bartlein barrel #2 barrel, Manners Elite Hunter MCS-EH8 stock, maybe a Pacific Tool & Guage one piece bolt, ceracoated everything and in 6.5x47 to take advantage of the readily available high quality brass.

Hi Buddy i appreciate the response BUT your missing a lot of componets and the 6.5 x 47 is NOT the cartridge of choice either ! and what about the machine work what has to be done ? Come on you can do better ! RJ
 
You could do like I did a few years ago.
I found a 700 Ti and had it re-barrelled to 270 / 08 with a Shilen stainless barrel.
Topped with a 3X9 Ultralight in Talley mounts it comes in at 6 lb. 4 oz. loaded.
The next group it makes bigger than the inch will be the first...
 
Jim...........this is what I did to arrive at under 6 lbs all up...........but it wasn't cheap...........

Firstly I used a Rem 700 Ti in 300 WSM with a 24" fluted barrel, but you can come real close with a short light barrel on a Mod 7. Then you machine the fluted bolt and skeletonize the bolt handle and change out the firing pin and shroud for a PT&G aluminum. Next, and this is the big secret, is a Brown Precision 14 oz Kevlar stock........it is the lightest and one of the strongest stocks in the world. I topped mine with Weaver rings and bases as they are the lightest and super strong and they never shift or move and I put a Leupold 3-9 Vari X II compact on it.

Here's a photo.......sorry I don't own a postal scale but it comes in at 5 lb 15 oz all up.

Photobucket is throwing a fit right now so maybe photo later...........
 
Jim...........this is what I did to arrive at under 6 lbs all up...........but it wasn't cheap...........

Firstly I used a Rem 700 Ti in 300 WSM with a 24" fluted barrel, but you can come real close with a short light barrel on a Mod 7. Then you machine the fluted bolt and skeletonize the bolt handle and change out the firing pin and shroud for a PT&G aluminum. Next, and this is the big secret, is a Brown Precision 14 oz Kevlar stock........it is the lightest and one of the strongest stocks in the world. I topped mine with Weaver rings and bases as they are the lightest and super strong and they never shift or move and I put a Leupold 3-9 Vari X II compact on it.

Here's a photo.......sorry I don't own a postal scale but it comes in at 5 lb 15 oz all up.

Photobucket is throwing a fit right now so maybe photo later...........

Or buy an appropriate Kimber ..... and probably cheaper in the long run.
 
My thoughts exactly Rembo.
double gun is the man when it comes to ultralight rifles and he knows how to shave every last ounce off of a the Model Seven in particular.

i know Josh - i also have 5 Rem M7's myself now and a Ultra Light M600 in 284 Win - i was just wanting to hear some OPINIONS of what other people would do for a build ! lol Thxs RJ
 
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My advice is to purchase a factory, or a limited production, semi-custom rifle, that comes as close to your ideals as possible, so you can have the rifle before you forget why you ordered it in the first place. Yes its nice to have a fine custom rifle, that is built without any consideration for price, but it can be a long road from concept to realization. Worse, once in your hands, it might prove disappointing, since the rifle strains the limits of the material and dimensional realities, typically needed to produce a viable rifle. Your expectation of a 6 pound rifle, scoped, with a sling, and rounds in the magazine, pushes those limits, and probably means your rifle has to be in at around 4 pounds. Considering a Kimber Mountain Accent comes in a 5.5 lbs, a Weatherby Ultralight comes in a 5.75 lbs, Howa's Alpine Mountain comes in at 5.7, and NULA's M-20 Short is 5 pounds even, one is forced to question if a 4 pound rifle is a realistic expectation, and if it were, its unlikely the rifle that could be shot intuitively. One recurring theme of the custom rifle, is that it is only ideal for the fellow who ordered it, and is therefore less valuable to any potential buyers down the road.
 
Jim...........this is what I did to arrive at under 6 lbs all up...........but it wasn't cheap...........

Firstly I used a Rem 700 Ti in 300 WSM with a 24" fluted barrel, but you can come real close with a short light barrel on a Mod 7. Then you machine the fluted bolt and skeletonize the bolt handle and change out the firing pin and shroud for a PT&G aluminum. Next, and this is the big secret, is a Brown Precision 14 oz Kevlar stock........it is the lightest and one of the strongest stocks in the world. I topped mine with Weaver rings and bases as they are the lightest and super strong and they never shift or move and I put a Leupold 3-9 Vari X II compact on it.

Here's a photo.......sorry I don't own a postal scale but it comes in at 5 lb 15 oz all up.

Photobucket is throwing a fit right now so maybe photo later...........

14 oz as a blank or finished, bedded w/ a pad?
 
The quote above on the Kimber Mt Accent at 5.5#s is wrong for the .308 length actions using the small diameter action like a 6.5 Creedmore or any of the .308 family of cartridges......although it maybe correct for short magnum version? My regular Kimber Montana 84M rifles with a Leupold VX2 2-7 scopes in Talley Lightweight mounts come in at 5#12oz in .338 Fed and 5#14oz in 7mm-08 on my electronic scale. The Mt Accent is several ounces lighter per the specs.
 
Thks i know Josh - i also have 5 Rem M7's myself now and a Ultra Light M600 in 284 Win - i was just wanting to hear some OPINIONS of what other people would do for a build ! lol Thks RJ

If you know Josh personally and can get him to do your machine work then you have 98% of the combined knowledge and practical skill to make a Remington Model Seven pretty much as light as she will ever be.
I do not claim to know doublegun personally, only through the occasional PM and many years of him sharing his knowledge in non-BS posts here on 'nutz and seeing some of his work.

I am also going to tell you something you may not want to hear and that is that you are never going to scale at 6lbs with a belly-full and a sling and still have a full sized barrel.
By full-sized barrel I mean nothing less than a 22" for a short action.
If your happy with an 18"-20" soda straw than you're golden.
Corlanes did their Alpine rifle based off a Seven and I believe that scaled in the mid 4lb range, beaucoup metalwork but again a short pipe.
Another fella who knows his ultralight stuff and who may still currently own an Alpine rifle is a member named "spurly", hopefully he'll chime in and can tell us the specifics of the machining involved in that particular rifle.

All good build advice from the guys on here as usual.
 
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My advice is to purchase a factory, or a limited production, semi-custom rifle, that comes as close to your ideals as possible, so you can have the rifle before you forget why you ordered it in the first place. Yes its nice to have a fine custom rifle, that is built without any consideration for price, but it can be a long road from concept to realization. Worse, once in your hands, it might prove disappointing, since the rifle strains the limits of the material and dimensional realities, typically needed to produce a viable rifle. Your expectation of a 6 pound rifle, scoped, with a sling, and rounds in the magazine, pushes those limits, and probably means your rifle has to be in at around 4 pounds. Considering a Kimber Mountain Accent comes in a 5.5 lbs, a Weatherby Ultralight comes in a 5.75 lbs, Howa's Alpine Mountain comes in at 5.7, and NULA's M-20 Short is 5 pounds even, one is forced to question if a 4 pound rifle is a realistic expectation, and if it were, its unlikely the rifle that could be shot intuitively. One recurring theme of the custom rifle, is that it is only ideal for the fellow who ordered it, and is therefore less valuable to any potential buyers down the road.

Sound advice Boomer...especially the part about custom rifle resale...that always stings.
Your guess on the Model 20 is bang on plus/minus an ounce!
It's hands down the best balanced and behaved sub-6lb short action I've had to date, and before it their were many from most of the factory offerings to full custom. About the only UL I haven't played with is the Weatherby but I have heard good things about them.

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The quote above on the Kimber Mt Accent at 5.5#s is wrong for the .308 length actions using the small diameter action like a 6.5 Creedmore or any of the .308 family of cartridges......although it maybe correct for short magnum version? My regular Kimber Montana 84M rifles with a Leupold VX2 2-7 scopes in Talley Lightweight mounts come in at 5#12oz in .338 Fed and 5#14oz in 7mm-08 on my electronic scale. The Mt Accent is several ounces lighter per the specs.

The 5.5 pound weight is a generalization, subject to specific barrel and action lengths; the point being that building a 4 pound rifle, the weight necessary to get a 6 pound, loaded, scoped rifle, with the sling attached, is a tough nut to crack.
 
Barrel will be a 22" by #1 taper made by : http://www.jccustombarrels.com/ ( canadian MADE ! )
Stock is a : http://wildcatcomposites.com/productinfo.html ( canadian MADE ! ) finished with a flip-flop recoil pad and armacoated .
Action and trigger stock Remy M7 - action to be shaved and ported - bolt handle to be skeletonized - bolt to have LW firing pin and shroud and spiral fluted - trigger to be done and set to 2 lbs- Main parts armacoted .
Scope to be a Leupold 3-9 Ultralight matt black with CDS and rings to be Talley LW 1 piece

how we doing so FAR ? RJ
 
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