LWRC SABR rifle pics
- Thread starter 48th Highlander Texas
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+1 Yeah enough already.... Appreciate the fact that there is a new rifle coming on the market..even if it does not fulfill your needs.
I don't care if it doesn't win me any liberation wars .. I'm buying 2 anyways
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Certainly not 10,000 of them, not even close, but entering the 1000's is possible, I imagine the PE90's sold in or near that range now. I'd be very happy should we be able to sell that many here! Almost as happy as LWRC.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Have you read the thread? No, it's not. None of the parts are interchangeable with any of the AR's, and technically in semi auto the original AR-10's are non restricted as they are not an AR-15 variant. This is a gas piston operated .308 of new design, and has a very strong argument to be non-restricted.
diomedesbc
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- Calgary, AB
I'll buy one for sure if its non-restricted. I've been dreaming of a non-restricted black rifle in .308 for years!
Epoxy, stop trying to tell the end user what they "need". Guys aren't carrying around weapons with rail systems in combat because they look cool, they are for function.
Your P90 comment just serves to further illustrate you have no idea what you're talking about.
Your P90 comment just serves to further illustrate you have no idea what you're talking about.
can we hold hands and form a circle please??
back to the topic - what is the durability of this piece? Can LWRC shred some light on the testings that have been done so far? The 12.5 is ....hmmm "That's hot!" We know the HK417 took 15,000 rounds - I don't think LWRC has the resource to pump 15K through each rifle, but it will be nice to know how much risk is involved in a three thousand dollars blaster. It appears that the AR10 and DPMS are not very high up in the durability department. Just wonder if LWRC has incorporated design principles and specific features to achieve certain level of durability. It will be nice if it can point out specific characteristics that will demonstrate that it will surpass the Armalite style 7.62 in the market.
back to the topic - what is the durability of this piece? Can LWRC shred some light on the testings that have been done so far? The 12.5 is ....hmmm "That's hot!" We know the HK417 took 15,000 rounds - I don't think LWRC has the resource to pump 15K through each rifle, but it will be nice to know how much risk is involved in a three thousand dollars blaster. It appears that the AR10 and DPMS are not very high up in the durability department. Just wonder if LWRC has incorporated design principles and specific features to achieve certain level of durability. It will be nice if it can point out specific characteristics that will demonstrate that it will surpass the Armalite style 7.62 in the market.
Is there a price tag for these puppies yet. I know it's going to be up there, but I have some closet queens that I'll gladly part with as long as it is non restricted.
From the looks of it and from what I have read here:
http://www.lwrifles.com/forum/viewt...&start=0&sid=76ea16d027bc5329ddae1ac615c01b87
It looks like a winner. My son wants one too.
Along with Armedsasks AR180B aluminum billet lower, looks like I'm going to be broke until 2012
Oh well, such is the life of a gun nut
From the looks of it and from what I have read here:
http://www.lwrifles.com/forum/viewt...&start=0&sid=76ea16d027bc5329ddae1ac615c01b87
It looks like a winner. My son wants one too.
Along with Armedsasks AR180B aluminum billet lower, looks like I'm going to be broke until 2012
Oh well, such is the life of a gun nut
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My piggy bank is getting bigger by the day.
Please, Please, Please... if there is a Gun God, let this be non-restricted.
Please, Please, Please... if there is a Gun God, let this be non-restricted.
We are in the middle of durability testing with the LRIPS. Before we went to a side cocker we did nearly 18 months of durability testing. Suppressed it went longer than any other semi auto I know of and would have gone longer if it did not start sleeting. The protos went about 20K before accuracy slightly deteriorated. There were no significant problems with the gun. We are changing the rail slightly to deal with some mirage when the gun gets really hot. So we started. One gun is going to SWC for them to put through SOTIC as a direct comparison to the M110. This is just market research for them which they do all the time.
The comments about rails, and 9mm, and PE90's are all pretty funny. Obviously the writer knows nothing about the UNS, or PEQ 2. You likely do not have these items, but there are other advantages to rails. We will make a handguard model, but not for a while as this configuration is most in demand.
The advantages of rails, especially on piston guns that you do not account for are: They are an excellent heat sink, they free float the barrel, they provide superior ventillation from convection cooling, allow end user configuration, they are extremely lightweight.
I can tell you that you are dead wrong about the Canadian Forces and their use of tubes vs rails. At least at the tip of the spear. Just because they are Canadian, doesn't mean they do not desire all of the advantages I list above. They get their SDMR's plenty hot too.
SMG's are dead, PDW's are dead in all but very specific circumstances. Please do not argue with me....we spend our days mfg and selling firearms to end users and those with SMG's or PDW's leave them where they belong...in the armoury.
I am amazed by the one member here who argues that this is an AR10 derivative and that it should be restricted. I can't really find words for that guy. As we configure the Canadian model of this rifle and get our ducks in a row, I can tell you this should not be deemed restricted, especially in light of the sig rifles being deemed un-restricted. It is a new design from toes to tits despite how it looks.
I am doing this because I am Canadian. Not because I think it will be a home run money making venture in Canada. The market is very small compared to the US, and I doubt we will be able to keep up with demand here for the guns. This is something I personally want to do, so for Mr. Expert who would make a great anti-gun bureaucrat, take your negative defeatist comments and store them in your backside.
Just to give you an example, RSR which is 1 US distributer sells 5500 bushmaster rifles a month. That is one brand, one distributer.
The Teleportation Device picture is really tongue and cheek. I know that does not play well in uber politically correct markets like Canada, but it seems to me in the right hands in a combat zone, it is accurate inshallah.
The military market for a relatively lightweight, reliable accurate .308 SASS is large worldwide. Here in the US, the USMC is returning their M110's and threaten to resolicit an SASS. The real role for an SASS is a number 2 gun in a sniper team, the number 1 guy with a .338 Lap Mag. In special forces circles, the sniper/assaulter currently carries 2 weapons. An M4 to fight and clear to overwatch, and an M110 for overwatch/sniping/counter sniping. This allows him to carry a 12" assualter with the SASS upper on his back. One platform, one type of magazine, one type of ammo. He does not stick out as a sniper in the battlefield. 12" barrels do not optimize the .308 cartridge. For the assaulter piece, it is MORE than adequate though.
The comments about rails, and 9mm, and PE90's are all pretty funny. Obviously the writer knows nothing about the UNS, or PEQ 2. You likely do not have these items, but there are other advantages to rails. We will make a handguard model, but not for a while as this configuration is most in demand.
The advantages of rails, especially on piston guns that you do not account for are: They are an excellent heat sink, they free float the barrel, they provide superior ventillation from convection cooling, allow end user configuration, they are extremely lightweight.
I can tell you that you are dead wrong about the Canadian Forces and their use of tubes vs rails. At least at the tip of the spear. Just because they are Canadian, doesn't mean they do not desire all of the advantages I list above. They get their SDMR's plenty hot too.
SMG's are dead, PDW's are dead in all but very specific circumstances. Please do not argue with me....we spend our days mfg and selling firearms to end users and those with SMG's or PDW's leave them where they belong...in the armoury.
I am amazed by the one member here who argues that this is an AR10 derivative and that it should be restricted. I can't really find words for that guy. As we configure the Canadian model of this rifle and get our ducks in a row, I can tell you this should not be deemed restricted, especially in light of the sig rifles being deemed un-restricted. It is a new design from toes to tits despite how it looks.
I am doing this because I am Canadian. Not because I think it will be a home run money making venture in Canada. The market is very small compared to the US, and I doubt we will be able to keep up with demand here for the guns. This is something I personally want to do, so for Mr. Expert who would make a great anti-gun bureaucrat, take your negative defeatist comments and store them in your backside.
Just to give you an example, RSR which is 1 US distributer sells 5500 bushmaster rifles a month. That is one brand, one distributer.
The Teleportation Device picture is really tongue and cheek. I know that does not play well in uber politically correct markets like Canada, but it seems to me in the right hands in a combat zone, it is accurate inshallah.
The military market for a relatively lightweight, reliable accurate .308 SASS is large worldwide. Here in the US, the USMC is returning their M110's and threaten to resolicit an SASS. The real role for an SASS is a number 2 gun in a sniper team, the number 1 guy with a .338 Lap Mag. In special forces circles, the sniper/assaulter currently carries 2 weapons. An M4 to fight and clear to overwatch, and an M110 for overwatch/sniping/counter sniping. This allows him to carry a 12" assualter with the SASS upper on his back. One platform, one type of magazine, one type of ammo. He does not stick out as a sniper in the battlefield. 12" barrels do not optimize the .308 cartridge. For the assaulter piece, it is MORE than adequate though.
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