Morpheus,
The cost of one modernized M14 is easily $10K LESS than one M110 after the kit, training and other elements.
With the economic situation the way it is here in the states, price is a real issue.
H20_Man
I think this Morpheus32is in the wrong thread perhaps the wrong planet. If I was wanting a close quarters semi-auto rifle, hands down it would have to be the AK-47. It put's holes through the tree, sand bag, wall, ect. As for long range semi auto all I can say is there was a man once that wrote the book on the art of sniping. I belive his name was "Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Norman Hathcock II". The inventor of putting a .50 cal BMG round in a rifle & 30 years later you get the "Barrett M82A1/M107 .50 BMG Semi-Auto Rifle".
P.S. Morpheus32 just incase you wern't up to speed on current world events. THE US GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! And Il Bomb Ya is to busing putting people in power that don't pay taxes that will alocate the fund's for your 10K rifle. Sorry but who is going to finace your great grand kids debt for these rifle's?
Actually we roll out more than 75 SASS a month now.
With the SASS comes a HARDIGG case, the suppressor, mags, drag bag, Leupold Scope, bipod etc.
Fact remains the M-14 is no longer a viable platform, it may be a hobbiest dream, but its not a practical operational platform.
Secondly the Mk17 (SCAR-H) is a USSOC item, so it can replace the Mk11, but not the SASS, as the SASS is Big Army.
Fact remains the M-14 is no longer a viable platform, it may be a hobbiest dream, but its not a practical operational platform.
Fenix.NZ
That makes real sence but as far as Morpheus32 tring to say that the m14 is in the same price range as a KAC M110...
I still think he is
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Further to my last, all you internet commandos until you have been there, done that like some of the guys here. Just shut the s**t pump under your nose!!! Some people here have seen actual combat and I am not talking about call of duty 4!!! some guys have actually fired rounds in anger. They maybe, just maybe, might know a bit more about combat and the weapons of combat, than some one who read about combat and ballistic tables on the internet!!!
I think your missing the point I am making. The system cost is $10K but that is including optics, suppressor, rails, and all the applicable accessories.
US Army sees urgent need for 'longer-range' infantry weapon. 01 Aug 2008
Nope. The true cost to the US taxpayer for each M110 is $14K or $15K including optics, suppressor, rails, and all the applicable accessories.
The M14 is still viable and will continue to serve for several additional years. I fully expect someone that works for KAC to say the opposite.
H20,
This is what I am doing for a living right now. Google the contract. It is public. The contract number is: W15QKN-05-C-0689. The unit cost for the rifles is $9729 per system complete and delivered to the US Gov.
H20,
This is what I am doing for a living right now. Google the contract. It is public. The contract number is: W15QKN-05-C-0689. The unit cost for the rifles is $9729 per system complete and delivered to the US Gov.
The requirements are very specific, in particular the mean rounds between failure and the usable ammo. The optical requirements, particularly the compatiblity and performance are rather demanding. The weight requirements and performance requirements are rather demanding.
To note I think the cost of getting the M14 to meet the requirements would be high.