M+M "features" wtf?

They had the right price the first time, they would have moved volume. Even if the new price came in A BIT more, it may have still worked....

ITB

Unfortunately , now with a middle man (NS) , it cant be close to the first time so I figured that maybe it could be sold to retailers at $1449 and then have them flog it at $1600. That's is how I arrived at the spring sale price.
 
Let’s just say that Mikey Mouse company failed miserably in Canada.

I was on original preorder with Wanstalls too and won’t be buying this no name company rifle for $2K or supporting NS.
 
Unfortunately , now with a middle man (NS) , it cant be close to the first time so I figured that maybe it could be sold to retailers at $1449 and then have them flog it at $1600. That's is how I arrived at the spring sale price.

Yep, I'm with you. They certainly had options other then a +500 slap in the face.

ITB
 
Let’s just say that Mikey Mouse company failed miserably in Canada.

I was on original preorder with Wanstalls too and won’t be buying this no name company rifle for $2K or supporting NS.

Would $1600 sooth your ruffle feathers? I might buy it at that price.
 
Would $1600 sooth your ruffle feathers? I might buy it at that price.


Dont think there is a need for my reply as you know the whole faking fiasco but I don’t like when company as well as dealer make promises and don’t deliver. They can stick their gun and warranty support to themselves lol
 
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Would $1600 sooth your ruffle feathers? I might buy it at that price.

I'd buy it for that. I won't buy it for 2000$. My BCL102 was 1700, JRA M1 Garand was 1800, this isn't in the same playing field. Which is too bad. I'll own one someday but the company and retailers are going to have to come back down to earth first.
 
North Sylva, just posted a link to a review and in the article they say barrels are easy to swap out at home and extra barrels cost $250US.
Spring sale for sure.
 
North Sylva, just posted a link to a review and in the article they say barrels are easy to swap out at home and extra barrels cost $250US.
Spring sale for sure.

They can call it whatever they want, but IRG can get the US version for around $1000 US each, slap on a cheap 18.5" criterion barrel that wholesales for what? $75 for a decent blank? Criterion already pumps these out for AK builders for dirty cheap. Another $75 in bulk smithing fees, and they can get a rifle to us for the original US MSRP of around $1250 if they so choose.

If IRG comes through, NS's competition will sell rifles for $1000 less then they are offering. That would rock in so many ways it would not even be funny.

The ONLY way I would ever buy an M&M product after this mess, is if doing so destroyed their unethical business model.
 
They can call it whatever they want, but IRG can get the US version for around $1000 US each, slap on a cheap 18.5" criterion barrel that wholesales for what? $75 for a decent blank? Criterion already pumps these out for AK builders for dirty cheap. Another $75 in bulk smithing fees, and they can get a rifle to us for the original US MSRP of around $1250 if they so choose.

If IRG comes through, NS's competition will sell rifles for $1000 less then they are offering. That would rock in so many ways it would not even be funny.

The ONLY way I would ever buy an M&M product after this mess, is if doing so destroyed their unethical business model.


Effectively after M+M said "we don't want to hurt customer who pre order" and after pushed all preorder under the bus to make more money. How they will honor warranty and how will be the quality of the gun?

Unethical business for sure....
 
Locking the review thread shows NS is aware of the ####-storm but doesn't care enough to get involved or speak about it.

The review reminds me of those video game reviewers/critics (whatever) that can't even play the game itself.

It takes more than calling something precision to make it an actual precision platform. 7.62x39 doesn't scream precision round to me either.
 
They can call it whatever they want, but IRG can get the US version for around $1000 US each, slap on a cheap 18.5" criterion barrel that wholesales for what? $75 for a decent blank? Criterion already pumps these out for AK builders for dirty cheap. Another $75 in bulk smithing fees, and they can get a rifle to us for the original US MSRP of around $1250 if they so choose.

If IRG comes through, NS's competition will sell rifles for $1000 less then they are offering. That would rock in so many ways it would not even be funny.

The ONLY way I would ever buy an M&M product after this mess, is if doing so destroyed their unethical business model.

This is the only way I can see myself buying one now aswell and it is a great idea if it works out like this
 
And I find it funny as hell they allude to XCR, SCAR etc.. as being direct competitors and they are cheaper. What a joke, I think that article was a paid ad.
Locking the review thread shows NS is aware of the ####-storm but doesn't care enough to get involved or speak about it.

The review reminds me of those video game reviewers/critics (whatever) that can't even play the game itself.

It takes more than calling something precision to make it an actual precision platform. 7.62x39 doesn't scream precision round to me either.
 
And I find it funny as hell they allude to XCR, SCAR etc.. as being direct competitors and they are cheaper. What a joke, I think that article was a paid ad.

Exactly. Like I mentioned before it's like counter-fit people jacking up the price of their fake #### so it doesn't look too obvious, people think they're just getting a good deal.

Comparing the rifle to a SCAR? Ya sure.
 
They can call it whatever they want, but IRG can get the US version for around $1000 US each, slap on a cheap 18.5" criterion barrel that wholesales for what? $75 for a decent blank? Criterion already pumps these out for AK builders for dirty cheap. Another $75 in bulk smithing fees, and they can get a rifle to us for the original US MSRP of around $1250 if they so choose.

If IRG comes through, NS's competition will sell rifles for $1000 less then they are offering. That would rock in so many ways it would not even be funny.

The ONLY way I would ever buy an M&M product after this mess, is if doing so destroyed their unethical business model.

Get to it with IRG.
 
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