Claven2 said:Milarm isn't bringing them in - they are reseliing Marstar importsAnd at inflated prices, I'll wager as well. For example - can anyone explain to me why they want $100 more than anyone else for the same RC K98k's?
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M1 garands from milarm in early July
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milarm can suck my nuts that place is overpriced and full of morans
stupid emo guy tryed to charge me 25 bucks for .762X54 milsurp only guy who knows anything there is gord
Dan there is also a cockey #### he tryed to rip me off charge 650.00 for a sks-d
Got a scope from there I asked if the cross hairs went green and red he started swearing at me and said what the F*%# do you want it to do make toast that was the last time I ever went in there
Milarm SUCKS
stupid emo guy tryed to charge me 25 bucks for .762X54 milsurp only guy who knows anything there is gord
Dan there is also a cockey #### he tryed to rip me off charge 650.00 for a sks-d
Got a scope from there I asked if the cross hairs went green and red he started swearing at me and said what the F*%# do you want it to do make toast that was the last time I ever went in there
Milarm SUCKS
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Claven2 said:For example - can anyone explain to me why they want $100 more than anyone else for the same RC K98k's?
The US price of 189.99 is all I would pay for a RC K98.
IMHO that's all I really think they are worth.
It's like this example in:
USA Cheeseburger 79 Cents
Canada Cheesburger $11.71
Hmmmmm....
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Claven2 said:
There were about 9 Garands at the Calgary gunshow, priced between $800-900. 7 were sold on the first day, and the other two sold on the second day. The demand is there.
That said, I would have hoped that a new import of Garands would have been a bit less, like in the $500-600 range. But if a dealer can get it, then I guess he owes it to himself to charge it.
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I'm perfectly happy watching everyone else buy all the garands up at these ridiculous prices.
I am glad somebody said this.
My first Garand cost $450 when the going rate was about 200 in 1986.
The difference...A 90% gun versus a worn out boat oar.
If you guys can't afford it stop whining about it.
Re. Milarm
I have dealt directly with Mr. Kerr at Milarm on numerous deals and found him to be a good fellow to deal with...don't waste his time with nickel and dime BS. Either buy it or go home...this policy is about the only one that works in the real world.
Cheers
My first Garand cost $450 when the going rate was about 200 in 1986.
The difference...A 90% gun versus a worn out boat oar.
If you guys can't afford it stop whining about it.
Re. Milarm
I have dealt directly with Mr. Kerr at Milarm on numerous deals and found him to be a good fellow to deal with...don't waste his time with nickel and dime BS. Either buy it or go home...this policy is about the only one that works in the real world.
Cheers
Coyote Ugly said:Let's face it, we're all tightwads!
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Alonzo said:
You sound like an uninformed buyer then, bub.
$800 for a parted out Garand is highway robbery. But obviously you know better than everyone else. You've dealt DIRECTLY with Mr. Kerr.
STOP THE PRESSES!
Over the years, the price of M-1s has fluctuated according to supply, demand and condition. Before there were large sales of surplus rifles, they were expensive, and not all that common. In the last 25 years, wholesale prices have varied from $75 up. It will be interesting to see how the prices will stabilize if there is a large supply of new product on the market.
$600 - $800 can really enhance my Enfield , Mauser , Mosin coollections.
Quite frankly , Id be happier with a nice Canadian issued No1 Mklll* than a Garand anyday.
( Although the prices on these are getting outta control too )
I know there's rifles thats been sitting in closets for years that are 1/2 the prices we see...or less . It takes some huntin' to find them , but thats all part of an appreciated find.
Over the last year or so , I've bought ,
'44byf Mismatch- local gunshop(not RC , No duf cut ,came w' bayo and sling) $220,
Turk 03/30 Mauser - local gunshow $55,
Styer M95carbine - local gunshow $50,..found a proper sling -add $20
M44 Izhe. Mosin $212 delivered -CGN EE (not bubba'd with import scralling or counterbored)
Found a wartime leather sling -add $20
for a total cost of under $575.
Thats alot more "bang" for my buck ....
...each too his own choosing...
Quite frankly , Id be happier with a nice Canadian issued No1 Mklll* than a Garand anyday.
( Although the prices on these are getting outta control too )
I know there's rifles thats been sitting in closets for years that are 1/2 the prices we see...or less . It takes some huntin' to find them , but thats all part of an appreciated find.
Over the last year or so , I've bought ,
'44byf Mismatch- local gunshop(not RC , No duf cut ,came w' bayo and sling) $220,
Turk 03/30 Mauser - local gunshow $55,
Styer M95carbine - local gunshow $50,..found a proper sling -add $20
M44 Izhe. Mosin $212 delivered -CGN EE (not bubba'd with import scralling or counterbored)
Found a wartime leather sling -add $20
for a total cost of under $575.
Thats alot more "bang" for my buck ....
...each too his own choosing...
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Look, unless you actually participated in the last garand import, it's hard to fathom, but when Districorp and the old CAI brokered the deal that brought us the Danish returns, they actually started out at around $700 each and a few did sell atthat price, typically the very cream of the crop rifles were retailed for even more in the $800-1000 range. Within 4 months though, sales had slowed so much in that price range that VERY quickly the prices started dropping, bottoming out in the $150-250 range as storage costs increased and sales slowed.
I don't know how many are coming in, but if it's more then 500 rifles or so, get ready for history to repeat itself.
I don't know how many are coming in, but if it's more then 500 rifles or so, get ready for history to repeat itself.
You tell ppl that the world is gonna end they stock up on water and buy a generator and pull their money out of the bank. Y2K anybody?.
These are the same ppl that buy things at the prices they are told are the going rate. I know lots and lots of people that would love a Garand. I talk to folks at the range that want to see mine and wonder where to get one.
They will pay whatever you ask for it, i'm not kidding. There are alot of people that want. Want = Pay lots o' dollars. Maybe its where i am and there seems to be alot of ppl here that have more money than brains. I sold a rebuilt mixer rifle and some clips to a guy at the range for $750.00
and he was happy as hell. HE OFFERED ME $800.00!!!. The only ppl i know
that have Garands are ppl on the board. I have never seen another show up at any other range while I was there. Are there more ppl into shooting since the last import??. I dont know. I do know that there is demand and lots of those ppl are without even 1 Garand. Chances of those without 1 buying 2 are fairly good IMO.
Theres alot to take into consideration with the sale of this particular rifle.
Current market saturation
Supply
Demand
Number of new shooters
Number of current Garand owners that want more
Number of buyers that might buy just part them out
Renewed interest in WW2
Price
Quality of theses imports
Impact the Internet has had on firearms sales in general
How many of these rifles wind up in a certain type of economy (Alberta vs Newfoundland).
Lets not forget that not every gun owner has Internet access or even a computer. They may never have heard of even one of the places that sells online (or just has an actual store). Maybe they wont buy online. How many people were buying firearms online during
the last import?. How many ppl in the world were making online purcahses back then?. Very very few and that is fact.
I dont think its realistic to make predictions unless you weigh all of this
and have experience selling in person in more than one province. That means selling at gunshows across Canada and selling the same type of product over and over. Can anyone here honestly make that claim?.
These are the same ppl that buy things at the prices they are told are the going rate. I know lots and lots of people that would love a Garand. I talk to folks at the range that want to see mine and wonder where to get one.
They will pay whatever you ask for it, i'm not kidding. There are alot of people that want. Want = Pay lots o' dollars. Maybe its where i am and there seems to be alot of ppl here that have more money than brains. I sold a rebuilt mixer rifle and some clips to a guy at the range for $750.00
and he was happy as hell. HE OFFERED ME $800.00!!!. The only ppl i know
that have Garands are ppl on the board. I have never seen another show up at any other range while I was there. Are there more ppl into shooting since the last import??. I dont know. I do know that there is demand and lots of those ppl are without even 1 Garand. Chances of those without 1 buying 2 are fairly good IMO.
Theres alot to take into consideration with the sale of this particular rifle.
Current market saturation
Supply
Demand
Number of new shooters
Number of current Garand owners that want more
Number of buyers that might buy just part them out
Renewed interest in WW2
Price
Quality of theses imports
Impact the Internet has had on firearms sales in general
How many of these rifles wind up in a certain type of economy (Alberta vs Newfoundland).
Lets not forget that not every gun owner has Internet access or even a computer. They may never have heard of even one of the places that sells online (or just has an actual store). Maybe they wont buy online. How many people were buying firearms online during
the last import?. How many ppl in the world were making online purcahses back then?. Very very few and that is fact.
I dont think its realistic to make predictions unless you weigh all of this
and have experience selling in person in more than one province. That means selling at gunshows across Canada and selling the same type of product over and over. Can anyone here honestly make that claim?.
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My guess is that there are already thousands of these things gathering dust in various closets across the country once the novelty wore off ... I'd expect an awful lot of these things to become available given a little time. The fact of the matter is that the firearm community may be getting stronger than it was 10 years ago, but few of those newbies (such as myself, I got my PAL 5 years ago, renewal going out tomorrow) have any interest in milsurps ...
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Can we stop trying to run Milarm into the ground??? If you dont want to pay those prices for garands well then DONT BUY THEM. If you want one, go ahead and get one. Why is it that some people expect stuff for next to nothing. If Milarm was such a bad place to buy from they would not be in buisness (I dont have enough fingers and toes to count the number of years they have been around).
God forbid that Milarm might want to make a profit of rare items it brings in (Edmonton isnt exactly a cheap place to run a gun shop). If people want to complain about prices, concider that Bushnell pays less then $50.00 USD for a Elite 3200 from the facory in Japan and they are wholesaled to dealers for around $185.00 - $196.00 and retailed for $250.00. Next time Milarm brings in a rare shipment can some of you try not to complain when they try to make money off of it. Some people on this fourm sound like the Saskatchewan NDP goverment.
God forbid that Milarm might want to make a profit of rare items it brings in (Edmonton isnt exactly a cheap place to run a gun shop). If people want to complain about prices, concider that Bushnell pays less then $50.00 USD for a Elite 3200 from the facory in Japan and they are wholesaled to dealers for around $185.00 - $196.00 and retailed for $250.00. Next time Milarm brings in a rare shipment can some of you try not to complain when they try to make money off of it. Some people on this fourm sound like the Saskatchewan NDP goverment.
I believe the below replacement Garand price mentioned had something to do with the pending C68 and anticipated market meltdown that would follow shortly. Many dealers were unloading guns at give away prices to rid themselves of inventory before the doomsday hit. It is unlikely the same thing will happen again this time.
Say what you guys will, but the importer (Marstar as I understand it) will have prices cheaper than $600-800. Wait and see. Milarm is ALWAYS the most expensive re-seller on ANYTHING that gets imported. As an educated guess, look for these to be in the $400-600 range everywhere else. If sales start to slow, watch those prices go even lower (my "buy it now" price is $350 for the record).
I don't know how many are coming, but I do know Marstar owns thousands of garands in warehouses throughout Europe. From anecdotal evidence, they have spent these last few years arranging a very convoluted export process - import wasn't the problem apparently. Anyone remember the "sold out but comming soon" $200 Garand ads they had up until a year ago or so?
Knowing the US market, they were probably also exploring the idea of getting more money if they could get them stateside. No idea if they will send any there or not (depends on US State's interpretation of the whole Lend-Lease thing - CAI HAS gotten Savage No.4's in recently), but if they do, numbers in Canada will follow other recent Marstar pricing trends in my opinion (ie, a Yugo M48 is a $150 rifle in the states, but a $400 rifle here).
I suspect we shall all have to wait and see, but for the short term, we can expect to see a halt to the crazy-stupid $1000+ CGN M1 ads except perhaps on truely nice and uncommon examples like completely unissued Italian made guns, etc.
I don't know how many are coming, but I do know Marstar owns thousands of garands in warehouses throughout Europe. From anecdotal evidence, they have spent these last few years arranging a very convoluted export process - import wasn't the problem apparently. Anyone remember the "sold out but comming soon" $200 Garand ads they had up until a year ago or so?
Knowing the US market, they were probably also exploring the idea of getting more money if they could get them stateside. No idea if they will send any there or not (depends on US State's interpretation of the whole Lend-Lease thing - CAI HAS gotten Savage No.4's in recently), but if they do, numbers in Canada will follow other recent Marstar pricing trends in my opinion (ie, a Yugo M48 is a $150 rifle in the states, but a $400 rifle here).
I suspect we shall all have to wait and see, but for the short term, we can expect to see a halt to the crazy-stupid $1000+ CGN M1 ads except perhaps on truely nice and uncommon examples like completely unissued Italian made guns, etc.
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Coyote Ugly
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Who really cares about Crystal Ball Predictions, this is a gun Forum. You could scratch your balls twice and get a better answer from that rather than worry about the price of Rice in China and futures prices of M1's!
The thing that really matters is Garands are coming in, and those that want one are going to buy one or hoard several, and those who hesitate and wait will be left holding nothing except maybe staring at a Garand picture in a book.
The thing that really matters is Garands are coming in, and those that want one are going to buy one or hoard several, and those who hesitate and wait will be left holding nothing except maybe staring at a Garand picture in a book.
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