M10X Canadian MSRP set
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Curious. So how come in some dealer post the wording sounded pretty negative toward the importer "has opted not to honor their commitment", not mutually messed up.
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Wanstalls somehow misunderstood what the price was.
How else would you explain how the CDN msrp was cheaper than the USA price? And that's before importation costs.
M&M has stated as such that the presale was unauthorized. They obviously had a misunderstanding.
Like I said in the other thread, the price was always going to be around 2k, hence why Canam was quoted as such from MM about a year ago (see canam thread).
I know we are used to a NR tax, but I dont think that was ever the case here. Look at the timeline.
$1450 was the price that never was.
If all parties wanted to make it right:
- Wanstalls could have not edged in after Canam submitted the sample for Frt.
- Wanstalls and MM would have confirmed with each other the presale price. Something went sideways.
- MM should supply Wanstalls with the preorder rifles like they said they would.
- Wanstalls would sell at cost or less to avoid pissing off customers
- MM would not sign with NS until the ####storm settled.
- someone would admit that $1450 is actually well under retail and was a mistake
How else would you explain how the CDN msrp was cheaper than the USA price? And that's before importation costs.
M&M has stated as such that the presale was unauthorized. They obviously had a misunderstanding.
Like I said in the other thread, the price was always going to be around 2k, hence why Canam was quoted as such from MM about a year ago (see canam thread).
I know we are used to a NR tax, but I dont think that was ever the case here. Look at the timeline.
$1450 was the price that never was.
If all parties wanted to make it right:
- Wanstalls could have not edged in after Canam submitted the sample for Frt.
- Wanstalls and MM would have confirmed with each other the presale price. Something went sideways.
- MM should supply Wanstalls with the preorder rifles like they said they would.
- Wanstalls would sell at cost or less to avoid pissing off customers
- MM would not sign with NS until the ####storm settled.
- someone would admit that $1450 is actually well under retail and was a mistake
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I don’t buy it. The only thing Wanstalls doesn’t understand is how they got f—ed by m+m. They know why. And now they’re going to eat sh!t for saying one thing and doing another. Not because they can’t honour the price, because they won’t.
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Wanstalls sent out an email.
The presale will not be honoured. Options are...
1) Use the down payment towards a bcl102 landing in January.
2) store credit plus an addition 10% toward instock items.
3) full refund of down payment.
The presale will not be honoured. Options are...
1) Use the down payment towards a bcl102 landing in January.
2) store credit plus an addition 10% toward instock items.
3) full refund of down payment.
Even from the technical aspects, no bolt hold open or release, reciprocating charging handle (at least you can put it on the left side), its 2017, I expect those things as a bare minimum. XCR seems like a much better choice and they can be had used for cheaper, and at least you can have pistol mags in 762 so you aren't limited to 5 in a gun that is slow to reload. Ya maybe for 1500 and less it would be cool, but no way at 2k. The vz has a hold open at least, and way cheaper.
The $1450 Usd price was AFTER M+M raised it from $12 something just before they announced the cdn msrp.
It was $1500 CDN to bring up from the US...... .
They made sure that way IRG or someone like that couldn't being them up cheaper than $1999.
Slimy slimy move on M+M's part.
LuckyLuc82
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Nothing but a bunch of liars
Ya know, I'm inclined to agree with your charge against Wanstall's here.
Wanstall's seems like a pretty decent company to me. However ....
If they really want to come out squeaky clean in all this, they should post the e-mail(s) from M+M with the pricing info that lead them to believe they could sell it at the pre-sale price and therefore 100% M+M's doing.
If I were them I certainly wouldn't be too worried about any confidential stuff with M+M for what they've pulled.
Until they post this evidence, Wanstall's screwed up somehow causing much of this. I don't think that angle can be ignored.
So where's the proof Wanstall's ? It's obvious to me people want to be completely behind you. Certainly would be in your best interest to clear the air all the way IMO.
You still holding out hope? M&M still your hero?
You are only catching hell because you were the biggest school girl about getting in on the pre-order, gloating like a clown with no tact at every one else interested that missed out on it.
Now you get ####ed like the rest of us, enjoy!
This is exactly how I feel. I picked up a nice used xcr 7.62x39 just yesterday. Screw M+M and their shady business practices.
I've no idea what you are on about WRT me "gloating", so once again I wiĺl challenge you to show me where it have specifically said or insinuated anything to that effect. You couldn't point out my alleged "whining" in the other thread you complained about either, could you? Maybe you ought to re-evaluate and ask yourself if it's you that has the "problems" here. You clearly have unresolved adequacy issues or some such, feeling like people are gloating over you when nothing of the sort has occurred. Once again, I ask that you show me the specific quotes that have caused you such terrible personal pain. Otherwise, you are quite welcome to go f#ck yourself, as I am done with your baseless whining. You have said nothing of value to me here or elsewhere, so congrats for being the first person in 15 years here to make my ignore list! See? You are a winner!! Buh bye....
Yeah I saw that TreMoR, but they should consider posting the actual e-mails to completely cover their butts.
I'm not at all implying Wanstall's are just saying that (above), but it is possible to make that up to cover oneself in hopes it gets swept under the rug.
Like I said, 100% blame will go to M+M if they post the details. If they don't they, leave a bit of an area open to questioning. Let M+M take the ENTIRE hit, it's not like their guns are gonna sell up here now anyway.
Sit back and think about this. You want a company to publish private emails between them and another company in order to make a few dozen (?) gun owners happy?
What kind of reputation would Wanstalls have after publishing private emails? You might not be worried about confidentiality but in the business world it's a pretty big deal dude.
I think a lot of people simply revel in drama and #### like this to them is entertainment. Like wives on facebook.
