M10x real user feedback? Is it worth it?
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So you didn't set the gas? you just shot one mag and quit? That's hardly a fair shake. The M10x group on facebook has hundreds of members that own all generations of the firearm, a lot of the issues were early models that had QC issues yea but there are lots of members that have great reports of its performance and many of the issues that still persist are easily worked out or related to bad ammo.
Here is another review of one of the Canadian ones with some accuracy testing.
I’ve also been reading around and it seems there was a batch of bolts that had improper heat treatment which caused some wear and cycling issues. M+M has been sending out replacement parts to those who’ve contacted them with the issue.
So if anyone is having issues with theirs they should inspect the bolt and a carrier and contact the manufacturer directly.
I’ve also been reading around and it seems there was a batch of bolts that had improper heat treatment which caused some wear and cycling issues. M+M has been sending out replacement parts to those who’ve contacted them with the issue.
So if anyone is having issues with theirs they should inspect the bolt and a carrier and contact the manufacturer directly.
Hey PECHENEG, I’m curious did you ever get your M10x working properly? Did you end up dealing with NS for warranty or getting any parts shipped from m+m directly?
I ask because I have read about people with issues doing that and eventually getting things sorted out after replacing the bolt/carrier etc...
M and M sent me another charging handle. After blocking charging handle button, and using magpul mags exclusively, the rifle started to work without FTF FTE, but I went through around 200 rounds total and parked it for now. It was extremely inaccurate at 100meters, much worse than any of my other 7.62x39 rifles . The whole rifle is a mishap, changing the bolt wont fum accuracy, but getting a spare bolt is a good idea I guess.
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Yeah I would check your bolt for wear around the cam pin, apparently it was an issue with a poor heat treatment on a batch. New bolts are better and also NiB coated.
As for accuracy I’m curious does yours have play between the barreled action and the upper receiver cover/hand guard? Also, does yours have a set screw on the underside of the handguard close to the receiver pivot screw? I believe the intention is to remove that play between those two parts.
Cheers!
Steered me away. Makes sense they're in stock in a few places.
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That is a pretty good indicator.
The drive on guns is literally insane right now...the fact that this one is still in stock at several outlets speaks volumes.
I have a funny feeling it's because of the poor reviews on here scaring people away,The whole initial price thing and actions of the company and importer... and I honestly believe there were issues with some of the first ones.... but I also have seen lots of really good reviews and know there have been changes and upgrades to it.
I will be picking up mine today, and also have a type 81 I the mail. I will be doing a non biased review on the both of them and selling the one I like the least.
I would love to see the review. I wish you the best of luck with your new shooter and I hope they have the kinks worked out.
the price they were selling the t81 in store were not that bad compare to what some are asking for basic sks ...
I bought a used one for a really good price. Gen 2.
I wouldn't have bought one new, just because of the pricing kerfuffle, but when one came up just north of $1K, I jumped at it. That's the price they should have been at to begin with.
I'm shooting 150gr brass reloads out of it, and it works great, none of the flier issues that MAC was having, although to be honest I haven't run a single round of surplus through it, maybe that would make a difference (but I only have corrosive 7.62 ruskie, and I really don't like running corrosive gas through the piston unless I know I'll have time to strip it down.
Pros? I can finally put a rail mounted brass catcher on a 7.62 gun, which makes reloaded a heck of a lot easier compared to sks's or VZs. It also comes apart quite easily, and strips down fairly well.
Cons? I think it's a proprietary pistol grip, the open charging slot looks cheap, and it's not really all that light, especially compared to the nice polymer AR I had BT (before trudeau).
Overall, I don't think this is really a shtf kind of rifle, but with trudeau hell bent on disarming Canadians for whatever it is he has planned for us, I might reconsider that someday. Who knows.
For me, it's a great little plinker, and should be priced as such. I had no plans to ever own one at the current list/resale prices, and was very happy to own one right up until the unfortunate boating accident. By the way, does anyone know what the round hole is for at the back on the folding stock adapter? It looks like a QD mount, but it's too small for that, is it just an access hole in case you can't get to the receiver takedown button?
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So I went out today to try surplus. I got about 20 rounds of brass reloads and maybe 3 or 4 boxes of surplus through it before the firing pin broke. Now the hunt is on for a pin. M+M hasn't responded yet, the store I got it from referred parts inquiries to N Sylva, and N Sylva is moving and everything is delayed lol. I definitely feel a review video coming on at this point.
Odd thing. The 150gr bullets in brass all ejected out and to the rear. The 124gr steel cased (at least I assume it's 124) ejected far forward, about 10 feet from the brass cases. I suppose that's not incredibly interesting, but I never had that with different weights of .308 through a stag, or any .223 through any kind of AR, they always throw brass more or less in the same place. I will say that with the surplus, the groupings opened up to about 8-10 moa. Now that could have been related to the firing pin failing who knows, but I would definitely put this in the category of "GROSSLY overpriced plinker". I will say this though, I have yet to have a failure to fire or to feed right up intil the firing pin incident. At first I thought "light primer strikes", but after the third, I thought "no primer strikes, and that's what it was.
Anyone got leads on firing pins? I sure don't want to have to send this to N Sylva for literally a 30 second repair.
I wouldn't have bought one new, just because of the pricing kerfuffle, but when one came up just north of $1K, I jumped at it. That's the price they should have been at to begin with.
I'm shooting 150gr brass reloads out of it, and it works great, none of the flier issues that MAC was having, although to be honest I haven't run a single round of surplus through it, maybe that would make a difference (but I only have corrosive 7.62 ruskie, and I really don't like running corrosive gas through the piston unless I know I'll have time to strip it down.
Pros? I can finally put a rail mounted brass catcher on a 7.62 gun, which makes reloaded a heck of a lot easier compared to sks's or VZs. It also comes apart quite easily, and strips down fairly well.
Cons? I think it's a proprietary pistol grip, the open charging slot looks cheap, and it's not really all that light, especially compared to the nice polymer AR I had BT (before trudeau).
Overall, I don't think this is really a shtf kind of rifle, but with trudeau hell bent on disarming Canadians for whatever it is he has planned for us, I might reconsider that someday. Who knows.
For me, it's a great little plinker, and should be priced as such. I had no plans to ever own one at the current list/resale prices, and was very happy to own one right up until the unfortunate boating accident. By the way, does anyone know what the round hole is for at the back on the folding stock adapter? It looks like a QD mount, but it's too small for that, is it just an access hole in case you can't get to the receiver takedown button?
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So I went out today to try surplus. I got about 20 rounds of brass reloads and maybe 3 or 4 boxes of surplus through it before the firing pin broke. Now the hunt is on for a pin. M+M hasn't responded yet, the store I got it from referred parts inquiries to N Sylva, and N Sylva is moving and everything is delayed lol. I definitely feel a review video coming on at this point.
Odd thing. The 150gr bullets in brass all ejected out and to the rear. The 124gr steel cased (at least I assume it's 124) ejected far forward, about 10 feet from the brass cases. I suppose that's not incredibly interesting, but I never had that with different weights of .308 through a stag, or any .223 through any kind of AR, they always throw brass more or less in the same place. I will say that with the surplus, the groupings opened up to about 8-10 moa. Now that could have been related to the firing pin failing who knows, but I would definitely put this in the category of "GROSSLY overpriced plinker". I will say this though, I have yet to have a failure to fire or to feed right up intil the firing pin incident. At first I thought "light primer strikes", but after the third, I thought "no primer strikes, and that's what it was.
Anyone got leads on firing pins? I sure don't want to have to send this to N Sylva for literally a 30 second repair.
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Just an update.
I contacted NS about the broken pin, and they were nice enough about it, but no warranty, they wanted ~$30 for a replacement, but not too bad compared to a paperweight.
I contacted M+M, and while their customer service was 2 word answers, they sent a firing pin with a much beefier spring for free, and they did it in a week.
So overall I might suggest to anyone with one of these that they look into the stiffer firing pin spring, the weak spring allowed too much stress on the pin perhaps.
I contacted NS about the broken pin, and they were nice enough about it, but no warranty, they wanted ~$30 for a replacement, but not too bad compared to a paperweight.
I contacted M+M, and while their customer service was 2 word answers, they sent a firing pin with a much beefier spring for free, and they did it in a week.
So overall I might suggest to anyone with one of these that they look into the stiffer firing pin spring, the weak spring allowed too much stress on the pin perhaps.
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