M14 Quick bolt release?

North Eastern Arms said:
If someone makes a copy of the SEI model it would make them a thieving pirate. If you want one like the SEI model, buy the SEI model. Do you want Canada to be known as the china of the fire arms manufacturing industry? I don't understand the mindset of some of you, "if the Americans wont send it here cheap, lets copy it".
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Nope.

Glad to see an industry of firearms mfg growing here in Canada. Will be interesting to see trends in 'reviews and previews' once the cool kids get their hands on them.
 
Stevo said:
The only time the release isn't laying flush to the side of the receiver is when the bolt is locked open. What can the release snag that the op-rod handle, the sling swivels, or the sights won't snag, too?

If the bolt is being held open, debris is going to get into the open action too, not just somehow jammed in behind this bolt release.

The Rooster33 or SEI releases can also snag or catch debris. I can't see how the small extra width of the NEA will make a significant difference.
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The math answers your question - more surface area means more chance of snags and debris accumulation - really not too hard to understand. Compared to the GI bolt release both the Rooster33 and SEI are more prone to snagging and debris accumulation, the NEA product just amplifies this issue more. I prefer less than more - I think its a pretty easy concept to understand.
 
WWIII said:
The math answers your question - more surface area means more chance of snags and debris accumulation - really not too hard to understand. Compared to the GI bolt release both the Rooster33 and SEI are more prone to snagging and debris accumulation, the NEA product just amplifies this issue more. I prefer less than more - I think its a pretty easy concept to understand.
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Well, its funny you say that.

I've known Stevo long enough to know he's less a 'concept' guy and more of a 'shoot and see' kind of guy. As in, regular shooting long after most people got bored of it.

Proof is in the pudding, and its an inexpensive option in what pretty much everyone knows has been an under served market.
 
WWIII said:
The math answers your question - more surface area means more chance of snags and debris accumulation - really not too hard to understand. Compared to the GI bolt release both the Rooster33 and SEI are more prone to snagging and debris accumulation, the NEA product just amplifies this issue more. I prefer less than more - I think its a pretty easy concept to understand.
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Yes, there are easy concepts at work here. You appear to be going for the complex complications without addressing either of the points I made with respect to snagging and debris accumulation.

More flat surface area does not mean more chance of snagging. The flat side can't snag. The only part of the release that can snag is the edges which are marginally longer in total length. Or do you mean "bump" on something vice "snag".

Debris accumulation has me really confused. What exactly is going to get stuck behind this little tab that will totally f**k the gun up without filling the open action up, too?

The objections to the shape of this release are primarily aesthetic or are imagining unproven problems.

I'll be ordering one as soon as they hit the dealers.
 
WWIII said:
If you can’t take constructive criticism on your product too f...ing bad - suck it up.
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We welcome it, and at the same time will also address what we feel are ridicules malfunction scenarios. Many of our products have evolved via feed back and "constructive criticism" right here on CGN.

As for the Bolt Release, if you dont like it, thats fine, dont buy it. To each his own.
 
North Eastern Arms said:
We welcome it, and at the same time will also address what we feel are ridicules malfunction scenarios. Many of our products have evolved via feed back and "constructive criticism" right here on CGN.

As for the Bolt Release, if you dont like it, thats fine, dont buy it. To each his own.
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Do you guys have a phone # to place order? and what is the price?
 
I think it is fantastic so many small Canadian companies are making products for the M14's. It would seem that we are only a receiver away from a full pull Canadian rifle:D
 
I have an upgraded bolt release on my M14 and after using it I have to say that it is an essential upgrade. I think that the extra surface area on the NEA model will make it easier to find when you are looking through the scope and it will be easier to push due to the inceased surface area.

I have two friends that would like to upgrade their bolt releases on their M14's; I will definately be recommending this product to them.

NEA: Thanks for bringing this product to the Canadian market.:D
 
... were your suggestions brought forward in the same delightful manner as they were here? Or in the same manner as "suggestions" brought to Neit Arms last year? Maybe you need to work on your interpersonal skills..

... and they say that "I" don't play well with others..
 
NavyCuda said:
What was the last thing you said to me? I recently dumped my PMs, but I seem to remember you saying you had a shelf full of the handguards and I seem to remember that was the end of it.
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Sounds like a pretty definitive response to me.



Yes it is true you offered a discount to me, and at one point to exchange a unit as well as providing replacement parts for an earlier model.
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Sounds like pretty good Customer service and marketing skills to me.
 
SEI
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Looks ok to me. But maybe my garbage can opener identifying skills must lack something her keen kitchen eye caught. Hell. In the right stock like my old Vltor above -- where there are long, clean lines and little bulk -- I bet that looks absolutely bad ass.

I wanted to post those pics so that everyone could take a VERY zoomed in photo and put sense of scale back into things. That sling QR on the VLTOR stock is not exactly huge. Compare the size of SEI's extended bolt catch. It is fairly small. Better than the original, but the more I look at photo comparisons, the more I like the new NEA part.


So I'll bet $40 on the looks alone that it is aesthetically excellent. Another $40 on its suitability for faster handling. And yet another $40 that it does not mysteriously hang up on s**t. Not even with the bolt inexplicably locked back while moving through what I can only presume you are suggesting as close country.

At the very least, you can actually BUY it in Canada. Do you have any idea how long I have been waiting to get another SEI extended bolt catch?



Sometimes you guys must seriously wonder why you do the public the favor of early release, pre-marketing pictures.
 
NEA/Neit

Have you guys looked at making a refit safety for the M1A that does not require placing finger in the trigger guard to manipulate?

A few such exist. Curious if this is on the wish list.
 
NavyCuda said:
See it's comments like these that make me realize that you don't deserve my money. You just spill out the arrogance all over the place but you refuse to take the time to look at your product and think even for a second that you made a mistake and that there may be a design flaw..
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So, lemme get this straight: you aren't going to buy one? :p

I really liked the Rooster33 release, but this seems very nice alturnative.
 
Holleyman said:
And a R33 for comparsion
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By picture comparison looks to me that the increased surface area of the NEA product will clearly will be more prone to fine debris accumulation such as sand etc behind the larger tab - potentially stopping the tab from releasing the bolt when most needed. It will also be a little harder to clear small debris such as sand from behind the larger tab.

Also compared to R33 and SEI, the NEA Bolt release looks like it will also be a little more prone to premature bolt release because of the increased surface area of the larger tab. This can happen when setting the bolt release side of the rifle down on a bench etc while the bolt is open.

Will the larger surface area of the tab be faster to use than the R33 and SEI - maybe - maybe not.

Is it as good as the SEI and R33 - for the reasons listed - I don’t think so.

Will I buy one - no, I will wait and buy something I consider to be a better design.

Hopefully BC Tactical comes out with a better design that is close to the SEI and R33 design without patent infringement and at a competitive price.

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WWIII,
Some very good points. I love my R33 bolt release. It is well sized and the upper and lower raised ridge bars provide excellent tactile cues for your fingers.
 
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