M39 picure thread!!!
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Front to back:
1) 1941 Sako Straight Stock (non refurb)
2) 1942 VKT, wartime stock
3) 1968 "sneak", post-war stock
4) 1942 B barrel, post-war stock
5) 1942 VKT M91
Rifles 2 and 4 are from the latest batch and have a small import mark by the muzzle. The others are not import marked.
Still looking for a non-refurb SkY M39.
1) 1941 Sako Straight Stock (non refurb)
2) 1942 VKT, wartime stock
3) 1968 "sneak", post-war stock
4) 1942 B barrel, post-war stock
5) 1942 VKT M91
Rifles 2 and 4 are from the latest batch and have a small import mark by the muzzle. The others are not import marked.
Still looking for a non-refurb SkY M39.
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Any price difference between the sneak rifles and the others? or between the 68 and 70?
A few years ago, Gunboards did a serial survey for these guns. Finnish records seem to indicate only about 3500 late-date "no maker" (AKA Sneak) rifles were made, so these serial ranges were likely not all M39s and may have included other guns like M91's, etc. or could have breaks in the serial ranges.
POST WW II (estimated) M39 PRODUCTION NUMBERS:
1967: 1,261 to 1,321
1968: 2,362 to 2,443
1969: 499 to 688
1970: 2,100 to 2,279
But based on these conclusions, about the same number of guns were made in 68 and 70. 69 is the rarest year (by far). Between a 68 and a 70, I'd just go by overall condition and the general attractiveness of the individual rifles.
My example is a 68 and I was happy to get it - it's a like-new circa 2006 Collector's Source import and is not import marked. While common for a "sneak", it's still rare among M39's.
Thought I'd share this. I finally pieced together a correct Finnish M39 cleaning kit.
The bag, jag, rod extension, bore brush, handle collar and handle, and the oil bottle were sourced from Pat Burns (yes, the same pat burns that sold all the recently imported m39's to classic firearms), the muzzle protector was a spare I ordered from Liberty Tree a couple years ago (I have examples of every type of muzzle protector for the M39), the screwdriver came from a seller in Finland.
For some reason, complete kits are hard to find and it's normal to have to source a few missing items. It's nice when you can find SA marked parts as well. In my kit, the bag, screwdriver blade, handle (with flattened end), bore brush and oil bottle are SA stamped.
Finding the first M39 rifle is easy, it's the accoutrements that are hard to get!!
Believe it or not, the screwdrivers alone are selling over $100 now. Finn stuff is getting pricey nowadays.
The bag, jag, rod extension, bore brush, handle collar and handle, and the oil bottle were sourced from Pat Burns (yes, the same pat burns that sold all the recently imported m39's to classic firearms), the muzzle protector was a spare I ordered from Liberty Tree a couple years ago (I have examples of every type of muzzle protector for the M39), the screwdriver came from a seller in Finland.
For some reason, complete kits are hard to find and it's normal to have to source a few missing items. It's nice when you can find SA marked parts as well. In my kit, the bag, screwdriver blade, handle (with flattened end), bore brush and oil bottle are SA stamped.
Finding the first M39 rifle is easy, it's the accoutrements that are hard to get!!
Believe it or not, the screwdrivers alone are selling over $100 now. Finn stuff is getting pricey nowadays.
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Not an M39, but rather the rifle the M39 was largely based upon. FINALLY picked up a decent M28/30 from a friend on the boards here.
You can pretty readily see the lineage that resulted in the M39. This M28/30 is an early 1940 (likely January as it's wearing a late 1939 stock). 1940 was the last year of series production for these (1935-1940), though a few commercial and target guns were assembled post-war and are marked differently. So this was the last variant before SAKO switched entirely to M39 production in 1941.
The only real changes between the M28/30 and early M39 production (i.e. straight stocked SAKO M39's) are the barrel bands, the rear sight range markings, bore diameter, and minor inletting differences to accomodate a new cleaning rod nut and the new band shapes on the M39.
The 28-30 ushered in a bunch of features that made the M39 what it is: The 2 stage pin-modfied trigger (albeit the M39 eliminiated the coiled trigger return spring), the rear sight assembly, the M39's adjustable front sight, the HV anti-jam magazine, and a muzzle cap that attaches to the front sight for aligning the cleaning rod.
You can pretty readily see the lineage that resulted in the M39. This M28/30 is an early 1940 (likely January as it's wearing a late 1939 stock). 1940 was the last year of series production for these (1935-1940), though a few commercial and target guns were assembled post-war and are marked differently. So this was the last variant before SAKO switched entirely to M39 production in 1941.
The only real changes between the M28/30 and early M39 production (i.e. straight stocked SAKO M39's) are the barrel bands, the rear sight range markings, bore diameter, and minor inletting differences to accomodate a new cleaning rod nut and the new band shapes on the M39.
The 28-30 ushered in a bunch of features that made the M39 what it is: The 2 stage pin-modfied trigger (albeit the M39 eliminiated the coiled trigger return spring), the rear sight assembly, the M39's adjustable front sight, the HV anti-jam magazine, and a muzzle cap that attaches to the front sight for aligning the cleaning rod.
I also had an M27 arrive on Friday, which is the other rifle that heavily influenced the M39. The M39 front nosecap is basically a refinement of the M27 nosecap with an improved top cover screw arrangement and elimination of the popsicle sticks in favor of using a beefier forestock profile inletted for a lug on the inside of the nosecap profile.
This one's a 1935 Tikka build on an 1895 Chatellerault receiver.
This one's a 1935 Tikka build on an 1895 Chatellerault receiver.
On the EE, it should bring $1100+. When Weimajack sold the last few B barrels from the Tradex lot last year, he sold them all at $1100 and they all went within a day or two. I know for a fact that I bought the last one of these from that import
On the EE, it should bring $1100+. When Weimajack sold the last few B barrels from the Tradex lot last year, he sold them all at $1100 and they all went within a day or two. I know for a fact that I bought the last one of these from that import
Thanks buddy
