M44 carbine with German markings?

tokguy said:
Hey, I picked mine up cheap because I wanted an M44.

Posted it up on here and wow...purists were spitting and wrinkling up their noses.
"You might as well D & T it! It's ruined now, garbage..."
Tell them you are gonna post it for sale as authenticate...just to see them spin.
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lol, I’ve always wanted one aswell and found this one in a good friends collection, ended up making an offer and taking it home as a gift if you can believe it. Very similar thing happened to me with a non refurbished mint condition never fired 1949 sks I lucked out on when they were gunna get prohibited and everyone was dumping them. Posted it on here when things cooled down and got endless messages about how west rifle brought in a bunch of 49’s and faked there condition(witch they did apparently) and how mine was one of those and it was worth half what I was asking blah blah well I sent a gentlemen that knows them very well a bunch of very detailed pics. Very shortly after posting more detailed pics instantly got a $2000 offer when I was only asking $1500. Unreal.
Not saying this m44 is like that but man guys like to jump all over you when all your trying to do is verify something you don’t yet know about.
Also thanks for all the info guys, the stamps might be fake but its in dam good condition for an m44 so I’m happy.
 
ZeroStop said:
lol, I’ve always wanted one aswell and found this one in a good friends collection, ended up making an offer and taking it home as a gift if you can believe it. Very similar thing happened to me with a non refurbished mint condition never fired 1949 sks I lucked out on when they were gunna get prohibited and everyone was dumping them. Posted it on here when things cooled down and got endless messages about how west rifle brought in a bunch of 49’s and faked there condition(witch they did apparently) and how mine was one of those and it was worth half what I was asking blah blah well I sent a gentlemen that knows them very well a bunch of very detailed pics. Very shortly after posting more detailed pics instantly got a $2000 offer when I was only asking $1500. Unreal.
Not saying this m44 is like that but man guys like to jump all over you when all your trying to do is verify something you don’t yet know about.
Also thanks for all the info guys, the stamps might be fake but its in dam good condition for an m44 so I’m happy.
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M44’s are cool rifles, even if they are refurbs or someone added dumb nazi markings. Hope yours brings you joy it it’s ownership.
 
Faking Rifles for Profit and Deception is also known as Humping, Di cked, Been Di cked With and the Worst of it…Douchebaggery!
 
That one (post #7) has the additional characteristics of a Finn "blue bolt" which correlates with it being part of the 1944 purchase of rifles from Germany by the Finns. The dealer I originally bought it from hadn't even noticed the faint depot markings and incorrectly called it an unrefurbished 91/30. 100% authentic!

milsurpo
 
We mostly all know the Germans and their allies captured huge amounts of Soviet weapons, of all types.

They even catalogued them, under their own designations.

It's more than likely some of them were stamped during testing, or just for cataloguing reference samples. They even trained their armorers in the field to repair usable examples. There are all sorts of pics available on the internet showing German and their ally's troops carrying different types.

I've seen pics of them using everything from capture pistols, such as the C96 Mauser, Tokarev pistol, PPsh types, Mosins of all types, Svt 38 and 40 types, manning Russian machine guns and driving captured t34 tanks.

Never say never.

Marstar did sell "some" of those which ended up in Canada. So did International and a few others. Where they came from, who put the stamps on them is the question.

IMHO, I've never seen one I believe to be authentic, other than as pointed out by milsurpo in post #7. I've seen that stamp on several MN types, not just Finn contract from the German warehouses. Reports on those rifles are limited at best and describe the rifles in a negative manner. They were supposedly picked up and stored without any cleaning or repair for the most part.

Whether that's just propaganda????????????????

There are some very knowledgeable Mosin folks on this site. They seem to be reluctant to jump in.

I can still remember all of the wailing and name calling that went on when those rifles first appeared on the Canadian/US/European markets.
 
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