Maccabee Defense SLR information and updates

I’m new to AR’s and have a few questions re the build...

1) can you just use any bcg, forward assist type or not with the slr receiver? Noticed there is no forward assist on it.
2) will any barrel work with any bcg? Ie if I took a cheap norc barrel and used a bcg other than a norinco will there be potential headspace issues?
 
supahdave said:
I’m new to AR’s and have a few questions re the build...

1) can you just use any bcg, forward assist type or not with the slr receiver? Noticed there is no forward assist on it.
2) will any barrel work with any bcg? Ie if I took a cheap norc barrel and used a bcg other than a norinco will there be potential headspace issues?
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1) If I recall correctly a BCG with forward assist cuts will still work in a slick-side upper. I'm pretty sure I had my 6.8SPC barrel in my slick-side upper before I swapped it over to my 9mm AR. I had a lot of AR's and especially uppers back then though so I might have gotten mixed up.
2) I would not mix Norinco parts with other brands but all North American made Mil-spec parts should work together regardless of brand. A Norinco barrel and the bolt it came with should function safely though.
 
supahdave said:
I’m new to AR’s and have a few questions re the build...

1) can you just use any bcg, forward assist type or not with the slr receiver? Noticed there is no forward assist on it.
2) will any barrel work with any bcg? Ie if I took a cheap norc barrel and used a bcg other than a norinco will there be potential headspace issues?
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1) any bcg will work in it. The notches for the forward assist have no way of interfering with anything so there is no reason they won't work in this. There are many slick sided AR uppers (no forward assist) and they don't take a special bcg. The only time you get into bcg compatibility issues is if the upper receiver is side charging or left handed.

2) What cr5 said. One other exception I can think of is if you use a NEA 7.62x39 barrel you have to use a NEA 7.62x39 bolt and firing pin. Reason being NEA uses a different receiver extension and bolt on the 7.62x39 that is of larger dimensions to allow extra material on the bolt to get adequate strength so the bolts don't fail.
 
mark k said:
The A2 build got me too. I always wanted a C7 from when they were introduced. Arms East was easy to deal with.
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Ahhh geezzze did I start something here lol. I guess Arms East will be happy about it. And I agree they were a pleasure to deal with.

Congrats to you on your decision to do the A2 build. :cheers:

I can't wait for the day all this stuff shows up and we can get putting these builds together.
 
2) What cr5 said. One other exception I can think of is if you use a NEA 7.62x39 barrel you have to use a NEA 7.62x39 bolt and firing pin. Reason being NEA uses a different receiver extension and bolt on the 7.62x39 that is of larger dimensions to allow extra material on the bolt to get adequate strength so the bolts don't fail.[/QUOTE]

A stock firing pin will work in the nea. The problem is that mil spec pins do no protrude far enough past the bolt face to pop military primers. You can buy a longer pin or remove 5thou or so off the pins shoulder.
 
r34skyline said:
I find it rich that some of the people sitting here moping about this are some of the same people that had no problem droping 4 figures on a bent chinese stamped steel pos...

Where was any of this outrage over the tavor? You know the rifle that had to be cheaper than the m4/m16 as a part of its program. The same one that costs 1600 in the us and costs 2500 here...

How much is an xcr again? What about a swiss?

For all intents and purposes you are getting a non restricted ar. One to build completely to your specs. You want bargain basement, go budget brands and you have an nr ar for less than 2 grand... also less than pretty much every single one of the aforementioned nr rifles. And for not a hell of a lot more you can put together a solid almost milspec ar for comparable prices to the other nr rifles out there.

As for the hunting crowd, you can put together a wicked lightweight setup for less than the cost of custom bolt guns.
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Sure.... But in the end.... It's still a $500 chunk of aluminum priced at $1000. Kindof like that "bent Chinese stamped steel POS" is maybe a $500 gun, priced at $1000 as well. Both are a testimant to the phrase " sell it for what people will pay".....
 
I’d say yes it’s over priced but SO are all the nice non restricted semi autos. An acr is not a 3000$ rifle by any means. I’d sooner pay 1000$ and then buy average quality ar parts and have a rifle slimmer less chunky feeling rifle than an acr. I like acr’s don’t get me wrong. Plus this company is jumping into something new here
 
Thankfully maccabee decided to invest time and money into developing a project that would earn a return on investment if it panned out despite having no value if the rcmp deemed so.

Damn bourgeoisie.
 
Mike112288 said:
I’d say yes it’s over priced but SO are all the nice non restricted semi autos. An acr is not a 3000$ rifle by any means. I’d sooner pay 1000$ and then buy average quality ar parts and have a rifle slimmer less chunky feeling rifle than an acr. I like acr’s don’t get me wrong. Plus this company is jumping into something new here
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It’s only over priced if people aren’t buying it. That’s the way it works.

It’s too much money for me. But clearly not overpriced.
 
ComradeVlad said:
Sure.... But in the end.... It's still a $500 chunk of aluminum priced at $1000. Kindof like that "bent Chinese stamped steel POS" is maybe a $500 gun, priced at $1000 as well. Both are a testimant to the phrase " sell it for what people will pay".....
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Your comparison is grossly mismatched. A billet machined receiver set vs the garbage Norinco Type 81 made with unknown materials and near zero tolerances is not a fair comparison. The type 81 is maybe a $150 gun(to the dealer) and is not even a tenth of the rifle the SLR is but people eagerly spend $1000 on the bent guns. A quality billet receiver set for an AR15 will cost you nearly $1000. The ability to use nearly all AR15 aftermarket parts makes this rifle the most versatile and easily altered NR gun on the market. Like r34Skyline pointed out, the ACR, the Tavor, the swiss, the XCR, The Vector are all grossly over priced and have limited to near zero modularity.
 
Seen the rifle today at CSC, while it handles like an AR (as it should) the general design and machine work leave alot to be desired in my opinion. If ATRS can obtain a NR frt for the MV-S design, there is no competition in my opinion, especially considering the MV-S is expected to come in cheaper and fix the couple short comings of the SLR.

Really its all going to come down to whether or not ATRS can obtain that NR FRT.
 
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