Maccabee Defense SLR information and updates

[Kidd X]

I'm a member of the shooting public, and to be honest, this bolt is the only thing stopping me from ordering an SLR at this point.

Other NR tactical rifles have been approved with takedown pins. I don't think it's an RCMP requirement.

No one said it was a requirement, just that it was "recommended". Why some get all butt hurt over a f*cking takedown pin I won't understand. Disassembly is neither time sensitive nor a very regular/common act. It's one bolt, such first world problems.

Ofcourse as I mentioned in my post I went for the most economical.223 I could find. My 6.5 Grendel upper is turning out to be way more expensive but then I have quite a few .223 semiautos, so i decided to go for an economic build.

Tough to build multiples that are all dressed without ending up in the poor house.

 

[Dr. Hunter]

I read on their instagram that they will offer a simple take down pin conversion later on. My bcl 102 requires a punch for disassembly despite the take down pins...

 

[HeadDamage]

They likely are up the the walkman 10 on paper already but will just feed the improvements to us one model at a time

 

[guess_kto]

For a very low end budget build, yes...

Calculated my costs with taxes and shipping: $1,750... blc cost... but hopefully with better results

PS. I was really keeping eye on budget and all kind of dales and deals. I may still have a missed item or two, but I have a quality barrel and good bcg

 

[kagia]

No one said it was a requirement, just that it was "recommended". Why some get all butt hurt over a f*cking takedown pin I won't understand.

It's just personal preference.

You may not understand it, and that's fine, but some of us don't understand why they would go out of their way to make this thing more complicated than it needs to be when it's not required.

 

[Sqr]

MEH........if I want a take down pin then it’s an AR (which everybody should have anyways) because how the SLR is going to be used doesn’t require it.

 

[jiffx2781]

To all the people who are complaining about the take down method, MacDef has commented on their Instagrram page that they will be making a retrofit takedown pin kit.

The kit eliminates the bolt required for takedown and there is no modification required to the existing receiver. The pin kit will be available at a future date to those who are getting receiver sets from this first production run. And as I understand it, future production runs will be made with the takedown pin system and will no longer come with the bolt method.

It seems they are listening to their customers complaints. Let's wait and see what happens

 

[kagia]

Nice!

I'll be a buyer when the updated version is available.

 

[CHEMMY]

Wonder when they say "made available" if they mean, cost $50 or just cost of shipping?

 

[Kidd X]

It's just personal preference.

You may not understand it, and that's fine, but some of us don't understand why they would go out of their way to make this thing more complicated than it needs to be when it's not required.

If you knew what was happening behind the scenes you would understand the choices that were made..

 

[Kidd X]

Wonder when they say "made available" if they mean, cost $50 or just cost of shipping?

Does it really matter? Could someone explain the obsession and concern over the steps required for maintenance? Are people incapable of using an allen wrench?

 

[BattleRife]

Does it really matter? Could someone explain the obsession and concern over the steps required for maintenance? Are people incapable of using an allen wrench?

It's like the Smith & Wesson lock integrated into the frame. It is of very little practical significance, but it is a powerful symbol, and reminder that the company rolled over under pressure rather than stand their ground for what is right.

 

[beltfed]

Disassembly is neither time sensitive nor a very regular/common act. It's one bolt, such first world problems.

Well, to play devils advocate...

I’ve been on the firing line in a competition where a guy blew a primer into his trigger group with an AR.

Blowing primers in such a way while not common, it’s not unusual either.
The shooter was able to quickly open the rifle up by popping the rear takedown pin, see the primer screwing up the trigger, turn it upside down and shake it out, load up and keep going.
He blew probably half of that match of 10 rounds for score, but he likely would have blew more than one match if he needed to screw around with an Allen wrench.

There is a reason that good service rifles can be taken down with little more than a round of ammo - it’s to ensure drop dead simple service in the field. If guys are taking these to the field for hunting or whatnot, there are no legitimate reasons not to try and emulate that good engineering and simplicity of use.

 

[Duncan71]

It's like the Smith & Wesson lock integrated into the frame. It is of very little practical significance, but it is a powerful symbol, and reminder that the company rolled over under pressure rather than stand their ground for what is right.

Lol. Ummm are you implying that they “rolled over” and somehow a takedown bolt vs pin on the same level as SW catering to gun grabbers?

If you knew what was happening behind the scenes you would understand the choices that were made..

Fill us in?

 

[Sqr]

Well, to play devils advocate...

I’ve been on the firing line in a competition where a guy blew a primer into his trigger group with an AR.

Blowing primers in such a way while not common, it’s not unusual either.
The shooter was able to quickly open the rifle up by popping the rear takedown pin, see the primer screwing up the trigger, turn it upside down and shake it out, load up and keep going.
He blew probably half of that match of 10 rounds for score, but he likely would have blew more than one match if he needed to screw around with an Allen wrench.

There is a reason that good service rifles can be taken down with little more than a round of ammo - it’s to ensure drop dead simple service in the field. If guys are taking these to the field for hunting or whatnot, there are no legitimate reasons not to try and emulate that good engineering and simplicity of use.

Your example is why an AR is the rifle of choice for competitors and the SLR is something totally different.

 

[Shibby!]

Calculated my costs with taxes and shipping: $1,750... blc cost... but hopefully with better results

PS. I was really keeping eye on budget and all kind of dales and deals. I may still have a missed item or two, but I have a quality barrel and good bcg

Is that with receiver set?

If so, you did much better than I. Haha. I’m north of 3G.

 

[Edmnorth]

I will be over 3K as well. Started with a Geissele trigger and that set the tone for the rest.

 

[bananarama]

My build
seekins precision comp
noceske spr barrel
kac urx 10.5 inch (hopefully gas tube doesn't show)
Geiselle lower parts kit
Giselle trigger
bcm grip
bcm buffer, tube, spring
bcm mod 0 stock
bcm bcg
nightforce shv / acog t33

 

[Gatehouse]

p and keep going.
He blew probably half of that match of 10 rounds for score, but he likely would have blew more than one match if he needed to screw around with an Allen wrench.

There is a reason that good service rifles can be taken down with little more than a round of ammo - it’s to ensure drop dead simple service in the field. If guys are taking these to the field for hunting or whatnot, there are no legitimate reasons not to try and emulate that good engineering and simplicity of use.

I've been hunting all over BC sometimes in some really crappy conditions, and I've never had a situation where I had to do a speedy teardown of a rifle. Most traditional hunting rifles are held together with screws.

If someone feels they need a rifle with pins to win competitions, they should grab their AR15.....

 

[beltfed]

It wasn’t a tear down, just opening up the action.
If this concept and one example isn’t seen as anything but a positive, well what can I say...