Magnum overkill. Over bore calibers on medium game

Shot my wt buck this year with a 28 Nosler from almost 300 yards, thought I'd have bad damage because it was a frontal shot but it took him at the base of the neck and penetrated about 12-16" along the spine. Zero organ damage. Never found the bullet either, 168 gr Nosler Long Range Accubond. Haven't shot anything in the ribs with it yet so curious to see what that would look like, especially <150 yards
 
Funniest I've heard, face to face - was a fellow who hand loaded 300 Win Mag's with 55 grn bullets, running over 4,000FPS....shooting at muskrats.
He said they vaporized into a pink mist....
He hated muskrats...
 
yidava25 said:
Shot my wt buck this year with a 28 Nosler from almost 300 yards, thought I'd have bad damage because it was a frontal shot but it took him at the base of the neck and penetrated about 12-16" along the spine. Zero organ damage. Never found the bullet either, 168 gr Nosler Long Range Accubond. Haven't shot anything in the ribs with it yet so curious to see what that would look like, especially <150 yards
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I just did the same thing. 28 Nosler, 150 TTSX at 3330 fps. 200 yard frontal shot, slightly angled. The bullet entered the neck and completely severed his trachea and esophagus, split a few inches of vertebrae down the middle, hit a rib, deflected and skipped a few ribs, then split 3 ribs in half and out. No souvenir. The buck just collapsed and didn’t move. Lungs and heart were fine. Pretty much zero meat damage.
 
greenjeepguy100 said:
Agreed, I prefer changing it up because FUN. I know a guy that uses a 270 WIN for EVERYTHING! He rolls his own and knows his gun. To him, its a tool to harvest meat. The boys make fun of me for bringing so many guns on my hunts. I'll use a 300 WINMAG for a morning watch on a small lake followed by afternoon walk in thick stuff using an iron sight lever gun in .45-70 followed by an evening watch using a 6.5-55 swede because I can. Big Bore will be my next purchase for sure.
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Agree with hoyt an your comment here!
same, horses for courses
 
Ardent said:
That’s a different and murkier theory, it does occur but isn’t reliable, and the larger the critter and stiffer the bullet the less likely you’ll see it. What the FBI describes and I tried to relate is there’s tissue damage and tearing from the velocity of shock waves travelling through tissue. When those waves originate from an impact greater than 2200fps, they cause permanent damage and additional wounding. When the impact is below the 2200 cutoff, the tissue distortion doesn’t result in damage beyond the immediate bullet wound site. This is witnessed in the frequently mentioned “eat right up to the whole” aspect of slower rounds, vs the jello of a close range .270 impact. That jello effect is ruptured cells and tissue from the radiating high velocity waves through tissue, and it’s produced reliably at 2200fps and above impacts. Importantly this tissue damage doesn’t necessarily mean bang flops, just more damage, but that of course correlated to more bang flops. Overall, the animal may still run and often does, but has taken a heavier hit from the 300 yard .270 or 75 yard 7x57, than the .45-70 at either of those ranges.
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Your observations do read as similar to Foster's. His term for it is "disproportionate to caliber wounding", more than calling it "shock". "Target resistance" is coined as a variable too.

His theory is that the magic number is variable with bore diameter, having observed that larger calibers can do this work at impact velocities a few hundred fps slower. The "cutoff" varying from about 2600 to 2200 fps with increased frontal area, with differences in bullet structure and meplat set aside. What are your thoughts on that?
 
dgradinaru said:
I carried my 338 Win Mag last year for deer. Filled my tags out with it. I used 225gr Hornady Interbond at approx 2850 fps. Never had any issues with overkill or excessive meat damage. One thing that i noticed was it didn't kill any faster than my 8x57 at those ranges i took the deer both in around 150 yards.

I also used my 9.3x62 a few years back to harvest some deer and meat damage was very minimal. When that 285gr hit the deer it sure put a smack down. My hunting partner took his buck last year with his Ruger #1 in 9.3x74R with a 250 gr tsx and agian meat damage was minimal aswell.
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I've taken quite a few coastal blacktails with the 9.3x62 and the 250gr TTSX at around 2600fps. Works great.
 
I shot a snowshoe hare at 10 yards with a 7mm Rem mag. 150gr Interlock, I was expecting nothing but mush but to my surprise the bullet poked a perfect hole right thru it's lungs with no meat damage at all. That rabbit went right into the soup pot back at camp.
 
i think I will start hunting grouse with a 338 win mag, perfect caliber for those big bastards! hahaha
 
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