"magnumitis"

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Chuck, plain old hunting skills is all what is required to hunt. Since the end of WW 2 sport hunting accelerated, and many, if not all, used old fashion hunting skills. Today, old fashion hunting skills are things of the past and replaced with gadgets that require no skill. I'll pay heed/homage to an old time trapper before today's wiz-bang tech hunter, or want-a-be hunter.

Gadgets like antlers and willow blinds... and your cupped hands "calling" moose... I hate that "technology" too...
 
Gadgets like antlers and willow blinds... and your cupped hands "calling" moose... I hate that "technology" too...

Now that's what I'm talking about! Things like that are great, good old fashion hunting skills.......... see not difficult at all.
 
Chuck, plain old hunting skills is all what is required to hunt. Since the end of WW 2 sport hunting accelerated, and many, if not all, used old fashion hunting skills. Today, old fashion hunting skills are things of the past and replaced with gadgets that require no skill. I'll pay heed/homage to an old time trapper before today's wiz-bang tech hunter, or want-a-be hunter.

There is truth to that. I do appreciate a few advancements though. But that mostly deals with clothing.
 
If magnum cartridges where called anything other than "magnum", would we still be having this discussion?

If you think about it, a 308 is just a more powerful 30-30, a 30-06 is just a more powerful 308 and a 300WM is just a more powerful 30-06.

Understand the limitations of each caliber and use whichever one suits your needs. Having a little extra power and not needing it doesn't hurt either.
 
I've used numerous magnums fer hunting, plinking & competition over the years and me favorites are 7mm Rem, 338 Win & 458 Win. All are adaptable for any critters in our country at sensible ranges & hand loading gives the shooter the best options for their preferred use. Everyone should have a magnum or two in their pile, even it it's just fer fun shootin'.;)
 
Your trapper friend is partially correct. It dose not matter what cartridges are used today for hunting, however lack of hunting skills and laziness is common place. Extreme long range killing/shooting, baiting, scents, rattling antlers, decoys, tree stands, ground blinds, camouflage, a multitude of electronic devices, now drones. These are not hunting skills, they are aids to help the unskilled, who are to lazy to exercise the art of hunting.

interesting...thanks
 
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Bird hunting dont count though eh?
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sure it does
 
I've owned, shot, hunted and harvested my fair share of big game in western Canada with magnum and non-magnum cartridges over the years.

In magnum calibers I have owned and used the 270 WSM, 270 Wby, 7MM Rem Mag, 300 Win Mag and 338 Win Mag cartridges quite a bit. The one I really did not care for was the 300 Win Mag. Funny, since I like the custom lh 300 WSM I now own. I still own and use a 7MM STW, and have taken more game with it than any other rifle, from whitetail at 15 yrds to 7x7 bull elk at 475 yards. And as mentioned before, even though "Magnum" is not in its name, I also have a 416 Taylor that is fun to shoot (350 gr TSX at 2400 fps). (To the poster on page 2; yes, I have 2, 250 Savages and a 416 Taylor! A lot of fun at both ends of the big game spectrum! LOL). My other magnum is a Marlin in 41 Rem Mag; not quite a long range affair! LOL

Of all the magnums that I have owned, shot or used, my favourites are the 7 Rem Mag and the 338 Win Mag. For North America, I believe that these two are the best of the magnums out there. Yes, there are bigger and faster; These two do what they are supposed to do very well, with manageable recoil. I know that many consider the 300 Win Mag to be a good compromise, and there isn't much that cannot be done with a good 180 gr bullet at 3000 fps, but I have found the 338 to be just a bit better for the bigger, tougher game. And if I did not live in grizzly country, or occasionally hunt bison, I could live quite happily with a 7MM Rem Mag. For the bigger critters, and adrenaline filled bull elk in the rut, the 338 Win Mag is just a better choice and is decidely more impactful.

Today most of my rifles are in non-magnum cartridges because I enjoy the hunt more than the kill. And shooting animals at over 400 yards is not necessarily using hunting skills to their utmost. Sure there are times when one must shoot a little farther in the mountains or on the prairies, but even after all these years, my average shot distance is still less than 150 yards. I also hunt a lot of thick timber and do not need the extra velocity to flatten out the bullet trajectories. My favourite cartridges are the 280 Rem, 6.5X55, and 358 Win. They have proven very effective at reasonable hunting ranges in which I have harvested the majority of my game. I also now have a 338-06 and a 376 Steyr, instead of the 338 Win Mag and 375 H&H. Very similar performance with less recoil.
 
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Being a trapper; I have the fortune or misfortune of hanging around with trappers. There are exceptions; but as a species they have little interest in guns at all. A trapper's gun is a 22.
 
I only have two magnums; a 300 Win Mag and a 300 RUM thats changing to a 338 EDGE soon. I mainly hunt deer so my gun of choice is a 6.5X47. Still has enough velocity and energy at 750 yds for deer size game. That would be max though. For the smaller x47 I'd like to be 600 yds and under. As far as the magnums go, I use a good brake and there is no issue. My 300 Win Mag shooting 215 Bergers at 3000 fps is a pleasure to shoot with the Holland brake on. This gun however has ballistics to take game out to over 1000 yds. Problem is I am not capable out that far yet. Need more time to practice. So I feel for most game a magnum is not needed. But there are times the extra velocity allows you to shoot WAY out there.
 
I've owned, shot, hunted and harvested my fair share of big game in western Canada with magnum and non-magnum cartridges over the years.

In magnum calibers I have owned and used the 270 WSM, 270 Wby, 7MM Rem Mag, 300 Win Mag and 338 Win Mag cartridges quite a bit. The one I really did not care for was the 300 Win Mag. Funny, since I like the custom lh 300 WSM I now own. I still own and use a 7MM STW, and have taken more game with it than any other rifle, from whitetail at 15 yrds to 7x7 bull elk at 475 yards. And as mentioned before, even though "Magnum" is not in its name, I also have a 416 Taylor that is fun to shoot (350 gr TSX at 2400 fps). (To the poster on page 2; yes, I have 2, 250 Savages and a 416 Taylor! A lot of fun at both ends of the big game spectrum! LOL). My other magnum is a Marlin in 41 Rem Mag; not quite a long range affair! LOL

Of all the magnums that I have owned, shot or used, my favourites are the 7 Rem Mag and the 338 Win Mag. For North America, I believe that these two are the best of the magnums out there. Yes, there are bigger and faster; These two do what they are supposed to do very well, with manageable recoil. I know that many consider the 300 Win Mag to be a good compromise, and there isn't much that cannot be done with a good 180 gr bullet at 3000 fps, but I have found the 338 to be just a bit better for the bigger, tougher game. And if I did not live in grizzly country, or occasionally hunt bison, I could live quite happily with a 7MM Rem Mag. For the bigger critters, and adrenaline filled bull elk in the rut, the 338 Win Mag is just a better choice and is decidely more impactful.

Today most of my rifles are in non-magnum cartridges because I enjoy the hunt more than the kill. And shooting animals at over 400 yards is not necessarily using hunting skills to their utmost. Sure there are times when one must shoot a little farther in the mountains or on the prairies, but even after all these years, my average shot distance is still less than 150 yards. I also hunt a lot of thick timber and do not need the extra velocity to flatten out the bullet trajectories. My favourite cartridges are the 280 Rem, 6.5X55, and 358 Win. They have proven very effective at reasonable hunting ranges in which I have harvested the majority of my game. I also now have a 338-06 and a 376 Steyr, instead of the 338 Win Mag and 375 H&H. Very similar performance with less recoil.

thanks!
 
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