Magpul AFG.... Gimmick?

It works but then again so do other grips.

However, it only works if you mount it in the proper location.

I've seen lots of people with the AFG in a position that indicates that they only bought it because they love to hang extra crap all over their gun.
 
00Buck said:
It works but then again so do other grips.

However, it only works if you mount it in the proper location.

I've seen lots of people with the AFG in a position that indicates that they only bought it because they love to hang extra crap all over their gun.
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HAHA spoken for truth! Nothing like a vert grip right in front of the mag well...

TDC
 
i have a vfg and afg1 like them both. the afg seems better on shorter carbines and the vfg is better on longer barrel rifles IMO. just DO NOT order the "PTS" version as its made for airsoft and not the same quality. also make sure the company you order from does not send you a afg1 instead of a afg2 like i had....
 
I have VFGs and AFGs.
I prefer the AFG on my XCR-L, it just fits and feels right so that my left hand grips around the AFG to the rail covers on both sides without twisting my hand upward, and it feels more 'connected' to the rifle than a VFG.
On rifles where the standard rail is far forward, such as the HK SL8 with standard short lower rail, the VFG is usually more comfortable.
 
I've used AFG1, AFG2 and short stubby VFG, and have to say that it really depends on the gun you're mounting it on, as well as your shooting style. For me personally I find that guns with tall/thin front ends seem to take the AFG better, where as something that's wider seems to go well with the VFG instead.

They're not expensive and the only sure way to know if it works for you is to try it yourself. I thought I'd like the AFG on a certain rifle but ended up hating it after acutally mounting it on, so you just never know!
 
I like the AFG on my fullsize Swiss Arms, but wouldn't bother putting it on my CQB. For me, the 20" is a little long and ungainly to use a vertical grip on, and with the 9" CQB I prefer to grip the mag/magwell.

Depends on how much other crap you have on your rifle as well. I don't like holding a railed forend without some sort of grip on it, but with the stock furniture it isn't as bad.
 
00Buck said:
It works but then again so do other grips.

However, it only works if you mount it in the proper location.

I've seen lots of people with the AFG in a position that indicates that they only bought it because they love to hang extra crap all over their gun.
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So basically the further forward you get it and the more extended your support arm is the better it feels?

The current setup it will be on is a 12.5" ar with a quad rail, I might put a light out front eventually but thats it. The rail is pretty wide and with rail gaurds it gets worse.

You guys are right! I'll get both, run through some ammo and EE what doesn't fit for me! Thanks for the incite guys.
 
Not as far forward as it can go. As far forward as if feels comfortable in a shooting stance. The AFG on the 5'7" guys rifle would be in a different place than a 6'4" shooter.

I have one, its on a 7" rail, so its not optimal in me pushing it out. Ive used nothing, a KAC vert grip, and back to nothing for a while, but now I find the afg offers a more comfortable hand position, even on a 7" than nothing. It also lines me up a little better for the flashlight(not that I use it, but just because you mentioned them), and keeps me from having to use a switch pad. It comes down to ergonomics, one pair of shoes wont fit everyone perfectly.
 
blaxsun said:
I guess it depends on how hot the gun gets. Myself, I'd shell out a few more bucks for the genuine article.
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I agree, but do you think the PTS version of the AFG is manufactured with a difference polymer than the main line? Do you think you could heat the rifle up enough for the AFG to melt? I doubt that is possible without damaging the rifle first. I managed to melt a set of stock handguards and I was still able to hold on to them.

TDC
 
TDC said:
I agree, but do you think the PTS version of the AFG is manufactured with a difference polymer than the main line? Do you think you could heat the rifle up enough for the AFG to melt? I doubt that is possible without damaging the rifle first. I managed to melt a set of stock handguards and I was still able to hold on to them.
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Yes I do. I've handled quite a few PTS items and there is a difference in the polymer. Specifically what I couldn't say, but it is different. A lot of the PTS stuff is also thinner and subsequently lighter, so the tolerances and structural strength just isn't there.

With respect to the heat issue, yes. I was going through my Magpul spare parts bin and noticed a few rail panels that had partially melted and others that displayed noticeable signs of heat damage. These were from some older builds, so the round count would have been fairly low (I guess I just had a few of them in the right spot). While I wouldn't say this is indicative, it would seem to indicate there as at least the potential depending on the configuration.

PTS is fine for rimfire, but as I said I'd be really reluctant to use anything like a PTS version of an AFG, RVG or pistol grip on an actual AR (especially an SBR). Mainly because it's often used as a hand stop or support to prevent one from inadvertently sweeping the muzzle. While the likelihood of failure is probably low, if would really suck to have something happen when it could've been avoided for $2-3 more.
 
blaxsun said:
Yes I do. I've handled quite a few PTS items and there is a difference in the polymer. Specifically what I couldn't say, but it is different. A lot of the PTS stuff is also thinner and subsequently lighter, so the tolerances and structural strength just isn't there.

With respect to the heat issue, yes. I was going through my Magpul spare parts bin and noticed a few rail panels that had partially melted and others that displayed noticeable signs of heat damage. These were from some older builds, so the round count would have been fairly low (I guess I just had a few of them in the right spot). While I wouldn't say this is indicative, it would seem to indicate there as at least the potential depending on the configuration.

PTS is fine for rimfire, but as I said I'd be really reluctant to use anything like a PTS version of an AFG, RVG or pistol grip on an actual AR (especially an SBR). Mainly because it's often used as a hand stop or support to prevent one from inadvertently sweeping the muzzle. While the likelihood of failure is probably low, if would really suck to have something happen when it could've been avoided for $2-3 more.
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So you're saying the genuine Magpul covers also melt? I guess they're not a great option then. Neither the AFG or RVG are load bearing like a pistol grip and failure would result in your hand coming towards you not the muzzle so I don't buy the "sweeping yourself" argument. You have a point regarding price, there really isn't much difference. Even if its only peace of mind, I too would sooner run the real deal then their PTS line given the choice.

TDC
 
I've got a AGF on my 12.5 with 12" rail.
Mine is in the position where it would be as far forward as possible probably on a 8" rail, I've been told to move it further away, I might, I might not..I've got lots of rail space so it looks far back, but it really isn't.
I still find myself grabbing the magwell when I shoot.. I want to try a vert grip and a magwell grip.

Try one out see if you like it, I first tried on on a friends 10.5" and that's why I bought it. I have a 10.5" upper coming so maybe it will go onto that and a vert on the 12.5
 
TDC said:
So you're saying the genuine Magpul covers also melt? I guess they're not a great option then. Neither the AFG or RVG are load bearing like a pistol grip and failure would result in your hand coming towards you not the muzzle so I don't buy the "sweeping yourself" argument. You have a point regarding price, there really isn't much difference. Even if its only peace of mind, I too would sooner run the real deal then their PTS line given the choice.
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In the interest of full disclosure, there were a couple of the ladder rail protectors where the rungs had melted, and a bit of heat damage on some of the polymer XTM ones (ditto for some of the LaRue index clips). I didn't notice any of this at the time (obviously), so I couldn't say specifically when or on which platform it happened. It wasn't serious enough to the point where I would have been wiping molten plastic off my hand, though.

The grips I mentioned are also frequently used on pump action shotguns, so that's an example where they definitely become load bearing.
 
Comfort during extended carriage is more easily achieved with the AFG than any other option. At least for me, I find it holds my support hand in it's natural position. Another point to consider if it's going on a work or hunting gun. I run AFG's on 2 of my rifles.
 
I'm gonna side with TDC on the PTS stuff. I think for the type of use "most" of us are going to put our firearms through if the PTS version is half the price of the regular line then why not. If someone is going to dirt dive with their KAC or Noveske or HALO with it, frogman into the beach, or even plans on dropping it b: then the regular probably will last longer and is the better choice.
 
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