Magpul Dynamics - Art of the Dynamic Shotgun

None of their DVD's fall under ITAR. It's the same reason they won't ship stickers or patched to Canada.

No they don't, but because every other product they make falls under ITAR, there is no point for them to make some special section on their website for us Canadians to order DVD's.

We're just gonna wait until one of our great dealers get the DVD's. :p
 
I just found this and...

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Only and I mean only thing I didn't like about that video...

Chris Costa "There is nothing defensive about firing at another human being"

I think they forgot to edit that part out, or they edited too much out and we missed the part where he says "There is nothing defensive about firing at another human being except when ..."
 
It looks like the Sheriff is bleeding from the left arm at the 0.47 second mark, what's up with that? :eek: It must be one tough training class!

Regards,

Chizzy
 
I wonder what the round count for the course like that? You gotta work 3 months (just kid :)) for the ammo only if you don't reload. I mean, every time they fire 5 rounds 00buck (or slug) - I hear the "ca-ching" sound, lol. I pay 6-7$ for five. And I shoot a lot but not as much as they do on the vid.

I am gonna order the DVD when available but if we had "tactical shotgun course" something similar with proven instructors here, in Alberta, I would definitely take the course. Hope, somebody will take initiative and orginize one for us. ;)

You can probably get it a bit cheap buying surplus stuff. Otherwise, 3" duck loads would give you a nice thump for practicing recoil management.
 
You can probably get it a bit cheap buying surplus stuff. Otherwise, 3" duck loads would give you a nice thump for practicing recoil management.

They were shooting Remington Express 2¾ 00 Buckshot and some of it wasn't the normal stuff you and I get at the hunting store, the primers have red sealant, and (I think) Federal rifled slugs. With some Winchester here and there, not much.

They don't train with stuff they will not use in real life combat. These kind of tactical training classes are expensive, usually last more than a day, and you rarely shoot less than 1000 rounds, whatever the weapon system is used.
 
They were shooting Remington Express 2¾ 00 Buckshot and it isn't the normal stuff you and I get at the hunting store, the primers have red sealant, and (I think) Federal rifled slugs. With some Winchester here and there, not much.

They don't train with stuff they will not use in real life combat. These kind of tactical trainings are expensive, usually last more than a day, and you rarely shoot less than 1000 rounds, whatever the weapon system is used.

While I understand the "train as you fight" mentality, but there's also the "I got bills to pay" shared by others here. Note, I'm not talking about "them", I'm talking about "us" regular joes.

When I used to work for Brinks, we shot 00 reduce recoil winchesters, they shoot just like any old birdshots.
 
While I understand the "train as you fight" mentality, but there's also the "I got bills to pay" shared by others here. Note, I'm not talking about "them", I'm talking about "us" regular joes.

When I used to work for Brinks, we shot 00 reduce recoil winchesters, they shoot just like any old birdshots.

The point is, this video is about a training class that is pointed towards reality, efficiency and concistency. They make it as real as possible because it's a short class, the average joes like you, me and half of the people in that video will obviously not shoot 00 Buck every time they train at the range on their own, simply because the ammo is not supplied to them.
 
Only and I mean only thing I didn't like about that video...

Chris Costa "There is nothing defensive about firing at another human being"

I think they forgot to edit that part out, or they edited too much out and we missed the part where he says "There is nothing defensive about firing at another human being except when ..."

I understood it as a common sense statement, though it may sound over the top. I feel that at the point you decide to use the gun, you switch from "flight" to "fight", and defense/avoidance become less important than dealing with the threat.:shotgun:
 
Only and I mean only thing I didn't like about that video...

Chris Costa "There is nothing defensive about firing at another human being"

I think they forgot to edit that part out, or they edited too much out and we missed the part where he says "There is nothing defensive about firing at another human being except when ..."

I think maybe the point he is trying to make is when you are at the point of shooting someone, you have gone from being defensive to being offensive. You are now actively trying to end the threat.

Thats what I get from it anyway. YMMV.
 
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