Make My Shotgun Longer?

[enefgee]

Okay. I though I would update you on my little project.

First, I made a mistake earlier. I recalled that my shotgun is 33 inch long with the factory stock installed and the 12 inch barrel on it.

But I checked my bill of sale and it turns out that I bought the gun from Canada Ammo without a stock on it. The stock I have on it now is a Hogue aftermarket stock.

As bough from Canada Ammo the gun had no stock on and it was probably around 20 inch long.

I guess you could probably fire the gun without a stock on. But tgat would likely be rather painful and/or very uncomfortable. So by the letter of the law the gun as as bough from CanAmmo was a restricted gun....if you are dumb enough to try to fire it without a stock on.

Yet based on my bill if sale, CanAmmo sold it to me as non-restricted.

So here is the part of the law that concerns me:



So, it doesn't really matter what I do to my shotgun, what stock I put on it, or what I do with it. According to the letter of the law, my gun is a prohibited weapon of mass destruction if I do any sort of alteration on it.

So let's imagine I take the gun as bough from CanAmmo. And I put a Hogue stock on it. So my shotgun is "a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration"

I think that adding a Hogue stock to my gun qualifies as "any other alteration".

And the law continues "as so adapted (...) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length"

So basically my gun as bough without a stock is non-restricted. Because it's not altered, even though it has a short barrel shorter than 457mm, since it came that way from the manufacturer.

But any alteration I do to it will either result in a gun altered to be less than 660 mm long, or a gun with a barrel shorter than 457mm and a lenght of more than 660mm.

So according to the letter of the law, my gun is only legal as long as I don't put anything on it and fire it without a stock.

If I do so much as putting a pretty pink bow on it, it becomes a prohibited weapon of mass destruction.

Now, a judge might decide that adding a bow or adding a Hogue stock don't qualify as "any other alteration". But that judge would essencially be ignoring the law.

You need to think less.

 

[Cameron SS]

Okay. I though I would update you on my little project.

First, I made a mistake earlier. I recalled that my shotgun is 33 inch long with the factory stock installed and the 12 inch barrel on it.

But I checked my bill of sale and it turns out that I bought the gun from Canada Ammo without a stock on it. The stock I have on it now is a Hogue aftermarket stock.

As bough from Canada Ammo the gun had no stock on and it was probably around 20 inch long.

I guess you could probably fire the gun without a stock on. But tgat would likely be rather painful and/or very uncomfortable. So by the letter of the law the gun as as bough from CanAmmo was a restricted gun....if you are dumb enough to try to fire it without a stock on.

Yet based on my bill if sale, CanAmmo sold it to me as non-restricted.

So here is the part of the law that concerns me:



So, it doesn't really matter what I do to my shotgun, what stock I put on it, or what I do with it. According to the letter of the law, my gun is a prohibited weapon of mass destruction if I do any sort of alteration on it.

So let's imagine I take the gun as bough from CanAmmo. And I put a Hogue stock on it. So my shotgun is "a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration"

I think that adding a Hogue stock to my gun qualifies as "any other alteration".

And the law continues "as so adapted (...) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length"

So basically my gun as bough without a stock is non-restricted. Because it's not altered, even though it has a short barrel shorter than 457mm, since it came that way from the manufacturer.

But any alteration I do to it will either result in a gun altered to be less than 660 mm long, or a gun with a barrel shorter than 457mm and a lenght of more than 660mm.

So according to the letter of the law, my gun is only legal as long as I don't put anything on it and fire it without a stock.

If I do so much as putting a pretty pink bow on it, it becomes a prohibited weapon of mass destruction.

Now, a judge might decide that adding a bow or adding a Hogue stock don't qualify as "any other alteration". But that judge would essencially be ignoring the law.

I disagree that your gun was restricted in its as sold condition. Please walk me through that, but its not semi, and without a stock cant fold, telescope etc. Should be NR.

Its also false to suggest ANY alteration makes it prohib. You can alter it, as long as such alterations produce a firearm over 660mm AND have a barrel over 457mm.

I wouldnt be surprised is thousands of people have unwittingly made restricted and prohib shotguns by mixing and matching parts.

As easy as it is to do, its just as easy to avoid.

And the simplified classification system proposed by the CSSA doesnt make any of this much better.