Bobbydigital
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- Spencerville ON
I am trying to make it easier on everyone by not needing verification to be compliant. Seemed simple.
Make your Kel Tec CMR30 Non Restricted with our conversion kit. 50.00USD
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I am trying to make it easier on everyone by not needing verification to be compliant. Seemed simple.
Samperfudge
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- Location
- Orillia, ON
Anyone else getting "PRODUCT NOT FOUND"?
Samperfudge
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- Orillia, ON
I re-barreled my CMR30 and had it declassified. Have an email transcript from the rcmp ident lab stating that a stock modification does not qualify it's classification change as per FRT 153688-3.
Perhaps this FRT does not apply to this thread, who knows. "FRT 153688-3 shows that exact scenario: 500mm barrel with a non-restricted class."
It's a really good thing the RCMP doesn't interpret laws on their own! /s
Perhaps this FRT does not apply to this thread, who knows. "FRT 153688-3 shows that exact scenario: 500mm barrel with a non-restricted class."
It's a really good thing the RCMP doesn't interpret laws on their own! /s
KotKotofeich
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- Ottawa Valley
The live FRT now has the 153688-4 entry (I'm a verifier) 408 mm barrel non restricted but no notes as to why. I'd say this is legit but as usual the lab is being squirelly. Expect this to be up on Armalytics at the next update.
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Look, it's a 50.00 fix for a NON restricted FRT, quit picking it apart. You also get a bonus, a front sling attachment. Like everything else it was a 3 year endeavor getting this worded out and getting the lab to sign off on it.
You can spend approx. 400.00 plus rebarreling your rifle or you can purchase this stock for 50.00US plus shipping, either way you're compliant.
If we injection molded the stock it would 3X more expensive to cover the costs. It is 3D printed on a Makerbot Method X with a Carbon Fiber filament not a Walmart special.
For the keyboard warriors that feel the need to ##### go troll someone elses thread.
The IRUNGUNS Team
You can spend approx. 400.00 plus rebarreling your rifle or you can purchase this stock for 50.00US plus shipping, either way you're compliant.
If we injection molded the stock it would 3X more expensive to cover the costs. It is 3D printed on a Makerbot Method X with a Carbon Fiber filament not a Walmart special.
For the keyboard warriors that feel the need to ##### go troll someone elses thread.
The IRUNGUNS Team
KotKotofeich
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Ottawa Valley
Otherwise feel free to remove this post, I won't be offended.Thank you, the stock comes with a compliance letter referencing this FRT number for whoever will be doing the classification change, as well we recommend the end user keep a copy of the letter on their phone.
The IRUNGUNS Team
The IRUNGUNS Team
The live FRT now has the 153688-4 entry (I'm a verifier) 408 mm barrel non restricted but no notes as to why. I'd say this is legit but as usual the lab is being squirelly. Expect this to be up on Armalytics at the next update.
It's a rimfire, why would it not be legal being over 660mm? Centrefire I understand needing a longer barrel. Spend the 50.00 get it to non restricted. My son has an expensive 3D printer, quality filament is not cheap nor is time, at 50.00 these guys are not going to retire, be grateful they are even reaching out to help.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't you initially advertise the CMR30 as being NR because the rear stock was limited from being extended past a certain length? Thus keeping it NR? Something change or were you wrong in your original assessment? I've been driving around with one of the originally advertised in the back of my truck for at least 3 years
You asked the question before we had the opportunity to reach out to everyone.
Yes you are correct, the first run of NR CMR30 rifles was authorized as NON Restricted by SFSS.
This was a verbal authorization where we used the same justification as some of the other posts on this thread.
At that time we were asked to file for a NR FRT, which is normally a streamlined process, although sometimes a lengthy one. This was all done prior to the importation of the rifles.
One of the Canadian Dist/dealers had gotten their nose out of joint over our marketing of the rifle which happens quite regularly when we steal their thunder, hence we were then asked to send one in for inspection.
At that time we were also kindly asked to stop selling the rifles until the inspection was complete at which time we were to receive a NON Restricted classification. That is why we stopped marketing them.
That was over three years ago.
We just received the sample rifle back in the last couple weeks with the rear stock destroyed. Understandably so when you beat it with a hammer.
They "SFSS" argued that because they were able to take it apart it was not considered permanent and as it was not manufactured by a licensed Manufacturer but rather altered they had issues with the NR classification even though it clearly falls within the legal definition of NR.
What the law states and how law enforcement and or the individual intrepid the law are not the same, this problem is compounded when people retire or move to other departments.
We will not bore you with the details but trust me when I say we have round tabled this extensively.
The only way this was going to work without a legal battle was to have a licensed Manufacture design and market a purpose build stock.
Surprise, IRUNGUNS is a licensed NFA manufacturer in the United States, we hold the same licensing and manufacturing capabilities as Kel Tec, Sig, Glock, Silencerco, Yankee Hill, Daniel Defense and so on.
Persistence over comes resistance....Problem solved...
That said, we will provide everyone who originally purchased a NR CMR30 a free stock and front sling mount. Please PM us with your serial number and contact information. Please note you will be responsible for Canadian shipping, we will cover the US shipping to Canada, importation, brokerage and all taxes on the stock and sling mount.
The IRUNGUNS Team
Yes you are correct, the first run of NR CMR30 rifles was authorized as NON Restricted by SFSS.
This was a verbal authorization where we used the same justification as some of the other posts on this thread.
At that time we were asked to file for a NR FRT, which is normally a streamlined process, although sometimes a lengthy one. This was all done prior to the importation of the rifles.
One of the Canadian Dist/dealers had gotten their nose out of joint over our marketing of the rifle which happens quite regularly when we steal their thunder, hence we were then asked to send one in for inspection.
At that time we were also kindly asked to stop selling the rifles until the inspection was complete at which time we were to receive a NON Restricted classification. That is why we stopped marketing them.
That was over three years ago.
We just received the sample rifle back in the last couple weeks with the rear stock destroyed. Understandably so when you beat it with a hammer.
They "SFSS" argued that because they were able to take it apart it was not considered permanent and as it was not manufactured by a licensed Manufacturer but rather altered they had issues with the NR classification even though it clearly falls within the legal definition of NR.
What the law states and how law enforcement and or the individual intrepid the law are not the same, this problem is compounded when people retire or move to other departments.
We will not bore you with the details but trust me when I say we have round tabled this extensively.
The only way this was going to work without a legal battle was to have a licensed Manufacture design and market a purpose build stock.
Surprise, IRUNGUNS is a licensed NFA manufacturer in the United States, we hold the same licensing and manufacturing capabilities as Kel Tec, Sig, Glock, Silencerco, Yankee Hill, Daniel Defense and so on.
Persistence over comes resistance....Problem solved...
That said, we will provide everyone who originally purchased a NR CMR30 a free stock and front sling mount. Please PM us with your serial number and contact information. Please note you will be responsible for Canadian shipping, we will cover the US shipping to Canada, importation, brokerage and all taxes on the stock and sling mount.
The IRUNGUNS Team
What you fail to understand Bobbydigital is that even once you modify it to be "non restricted" it will still be registered as a restricted firearms. In order for it to officially change and be removed from the registry it must be verified as non restricted by a certified verifier. This letter assists in the verification process.
You are not making it 'easier on everyone' by speculating and spreading incorrect information. If you are not interested, move along. No need to #### in IRunguns thread. They have been a stand up business and do a lot to serve our community.
Bobbydigital
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- Spencerville ON
What you fail to understand Pirate 604 is that I haven not spread any misinformation and haven’t s&$t on this product at all. It’s a great idea and appreciate what Irunguns has done. In fact I believe they could sell more if verification was not required as I believe it is not. The firearms act states that if a modification affects the classification of a firearm you must notify the RCMP. Nowhere does it say it must be verified. You must be a hoot at parties
If anyone is around my area that needs it I'm a verifier, just in case.
Where does it say I need to be a club member to get my RPAL renewed? Doesn't matter what it says, it's the extra rules they laid down that dictate things unfortunately.
Where does it say I need to be a club member to get my RPAL renewed? Doesn't matter what it says, it's the extra rules they laid down that dictate things unfortunately.
