Making a non restricted shotgun restricted ?

fightinghamster said:
How hard is it to register a non restricted shotgun as restricted? I keep seeing those super short shotguns on tactical imports and have the overwhelming desire to hack the stock off one and register it as restricted, how does one even go about doing that?
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In RCMP individual web services there's an option to 'register restricted firearms', but you'll need a verifier...

You can try simply calling the CFP and they may verify over the phone.

If not pm me, I'm a verifier.

Now... Hacking the stock off will accomplish what exactly that will make it restricted? Are you counting on the "any other modification" that gets it under 26" oal? It might not...

If there's not a matching entry in the FRT the lab will have to add one which may take a good while.
 
KotKotofeich said:
In RCMP individual web services there's an option to 'register restricted firearms', but you'll need a verifier...

You can try simply calling the CFP and they may verify over the phone.

If not pm me, I'm a verifier.

Now... Hacking the stock off will accomplish what exactly that will make it restricted? Are you counting on the "any other modification" that gets it under 26" oal? It might not...

If there's not a matching entry in the FRT the lab will have to add one which may take a good while.
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I had to verify a rem 870 shotgun with a 14 inch barrel years back and did it at the local RCMP station.
The lady that took the gun didn't know how to release the action and had to get a man to come and show her how to run an 870.

Then she went to the back somewhere and I waited and waited after about 40 minutes I inquired and someone got her and she explained to me that she was almost done but had to create a new FRT and that was taking some time. I thought it was a bit strange and should have asked her why she needed an new FRT for a 14" Rem 870 but I didn't say anything and 5 minutes later she handed me my gun and I left. When I got home I looked a little closer and converted the metric number she had put down for the barrel length and it came out to a strange number closer to 17 inches... took me a second and then I realized she had measured the barrel with a rod down the barrel and the action open! Drove back and pointed out the errors of her way and she did not apologize but went in the back and came out 5 minutes later with it registered (long gun registry) with the correct barrel length and pre existing FRT.
 
Fairly sure you hacking the stock off makes it prohibited instead of restricted, double check the regs before you break the hacksaw out. Check for the section mentioning barrels under 18" and modifications.
 
fightinghamster said:
How hard is it to register a non restricted shotgun as restricted? I keep seeing those super short shotguns on tactical imports and have the overwhelming desire to hack the stock off one and register it as restricted, how does one even go about doing that?
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Cutting the stock off to a pistol grip may render it a prohib. They might require you to fit a new pistol grip before registration as a restricted, and as KotKotofeich says, swapping to a pistol grip may not be considered modified by 'or otherwise' to get it to restricted status.


Restricted:

restricted firearm means
  • (c) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise, or


Prohibited:

prohibited firearm means
  • (b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,
    • (i) is less than 660 mm in length, or
    • (ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,


Mark
 
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Some good information as well as a bunch of people calling me a dumb a** which is more or less what I expected, the biggest reason I was interested is because I think there neat, I already own a bunch of restricted handguns but missed out on the restricted rifles I wanted, I’m also on a quest to have all my wife’s favourite guns from red dead redemption 2 and the short double barrel with exposed hammers that tactical imports had would fit the sawn off role perfectly, it was my understanding that you can’t legally cut a barrel down below 18.5 inches and if you want shorter it needs to be newly manufactured, so I figured starting with the 9 inch double barrel and cutting the stock to a pistol grip would give me the size and look I wanted, there’s definitely an frt for the non restricted versions as they have to be imported from turkey or china, I’m not sure if I could convince tactical imports, or someone else to make a pistol grip for those guns and it seems like I won’t be able to just saw it off after it’s re registered
 
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