Man dies following hunting accident in Nova Scotia: RCMP

stubblejumper said:
Prince Albert is in Saskatchewan, where there is a color requirement. Obviously color has no effect on self inflicted gunshot wounds. Unless the incident is a case of a human being mistaken for an animal, or a human being ,being directly un line with an animal, the incident is irrelevant. And in most cases where the shooter claims to see an animal, there is no proof that there actually was an animal. And even though orange is not a legal requirement in some provinces, some of the people shot are wearing orange anyways. And you had to go back several years, to come up with these examples, which shows how seldom people are shot after being mistaken for animals.
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I never looked for any years?? That was a 2 minute search on one post I found
Argue all you like orange makes a difference
They are rare here also
Cheers

Ah we went 11 years with ZERO how about Alberta

Published Monday, October 31, 2016 7:42AM ADT
Last Updated Tuesday, November 1, 2016 7:39AM ADT
BIG TANCOOK ISLAND, N.S. -- A deer hunter shot dead on a South Shore island was Nova Scotia's first hunting-related death since 2005, according to the Department of Natural Resources.

The unidentified 52-year-old man from Halifax was killed Friday in what police now say was an accident on Big Tancook Island -- a location only accessible by ferry from Chester, N.S.

Sandra Fraser, the hunter education coordinator for Nova Scotia's Department of Natural Resources, said the last hunting-related fatality in Nova Scotia was in 2005, in an incident that involved illegal hunting.
 
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3macs1 said:
I never looked for any years?? That was a 2 minute search on one post I found
Argue all you like orange makes a difference
They are rare here also
Cheers
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The only way to now the true effect of hunter orange is through statistics, in other words if the incident rate changes when a color restriction is imposed or removed. I used Alberta or that reason, the same terrain, the same culture, and some of the same people. The fewest variables, always produces the most valid data.
 
stubblejumper said:
The only way to now the true effect of hunter orange is through statistics, in other words if the incident rate changes when a color restriction is imposed or removed. I used Alberta or that reason, the same terrain, the same culture, and some of the same people. The fewest variables, always produces the most valid data.
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The only documented data I see like that is state side
Cheers
 
Out of interest:

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Edit: I once had the weird experience of seeing the wrong target, my brain showed me what I expected to see, not what was there. Luckily, we were using blanks. You brain actually photoshops what you see, but you don't realise it.
 
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I'd like to explain my previous post a little better. It was my mistake for being not as descriptive as I should have been.

The incident happened 20 years ago and I was definitely less experienced.

The location was a 100 foot buffer around a brook between 2 clear cuts and the previous 3 trips in I had spooked deer from the thicket. Trees were laid down every which way and for the guy to come from the direction he did, he would be on his hands and knees for much of it.

At no point was I aiming at he brown motion in the thicket, I had the rifle pointed at an opening outside it- it just happened that's where he stepped out so he walked to where the rifle was pointed (still not an excuse and I agree, should not have taken safety off)


It shook me up so bad, I had to leave shortly after. Only to find this guy had parked right beside me so he obviously knew I was there and he still chose not to wear any orange- in violation of the laws here.



To tell the God's honest truth I can't fully remember if I was looking through the scope or not but that's how the memory is in my mind, perhaps I was so startled that is what I recall???




It was a dangerous and stupid close call that I learned from. I have since avoided heavily hunted areas.




I have a lot of respect for you guys and I just wanted to try to explain things better.
 
I talked to a guy in Cranbrook BC who was shot in the buttock by another hunter and then left for dead. He had to hike out a long distance, lost a lot of blood and barely made it through. The shooter was never found.
 
I only did BC, because I somewhat recall all of these incidents, as hunting shooting deaths are so rare in BC.


3macs1 said:
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and a Lake Country, B.C. man is believed to have accidentally shot himself with his hunting rifle while hiking through the bush between Sept. 29 and Oct. 4.
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Self inflicted- orange not a factor

In northern B.C., a man was shot Oct. 16 by another hunter who mistook him for a wild animal. He was sent to hospital with non-life threatening injuries.
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Shot while on a ATV.


Police in northern British Columbia say charges will not be laid over a hunting accident that claimed the life of a 59-year-old U.S. man.
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Shot by his guide during a grizzly charge. Orange not a factor.


The BC Coroners Service has confirmed the identity of a man who died in a hunting accident near Nakusp on Nov. 12, 2014.
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Fell off a cliff. Orange not a factor
 
The BC hunting regs used to have a chart in it showing the years and hunter deaths and injury. I think they stopped it as BC went years without incident. The biggest factor in reducing hunter injuries and deaths was found to be when they introduced hunter education courses.
 
Gatehouse said:
The BC hunting regs used to have a chart in it showing the years and hunter deaths and injury. I think they stopped it as BC went years without incident. The biggest factor in reducing hunter injuries and deaths was found to be when they introduced hunter education courses.
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THIS!!!! I was one of the first instructors in mainland BC to teach hunter education [CORE] program in 1972. Once the program was fully
implemented, shooting "incidents" declined dramatically. As an instructor, I got statistics each year outlining the firearms related incidents.

There were many years which contained none, but even in the years when we had one or two, it was usually obvious that clothing color
would have had little to do with the incident. Most of the incidents were, pure and simple, failure to use safe firearms handling protocol.

I am reluctant to call most of these occurrences "accidents" since a true accident is usually a freak situation that could neither be foreseen
nor prevented easily. Dave.
 
Eagleye said:
There were many years which contained none, but even in the years when we had one or two, it was usually obvious that clothing color
would have had little to do with the incident. Most of the incidents were, pure and simple, failure to use safe firearms handling protocol.
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I recall reading about these shootings years ago. They often involved a loaded firearm in a vehicle, and the victims shooting themselves or their hunting partner while exiting the vehicle.

In BC, being shot by a stranger while hunting (like the hunter on the ATV) is very uncommon.
 
Cranky Pants said:
I'd like to explain my previous post a little better. It was my mistake for being not as descriptive as I should have been.

The incident happened 20 years ago and I was definitely less experienced.

The location was a 100 foot buffer around a brook between 2 clear cuts and the previous 3 trips in I had spooked deer from the thicket. Trees were laid down every which way and for the guy to come from the direction he did, he would be on his hands and knees for much of it.

At no point was I aiming at he brown motion in the thicket, I had the rifle pointed at an opening outside it- it just happened that's where he stepped out so he walked to where the rifle was pointed (still not an excuse and I agree, should not have taken safety off)


It shook me up so bad, I had to leave shortly after. Only to find this guy had parked right beside me so he obviously knew I was there and he still chose not to wear any orange- in violation of the laws here.

To tell the God's honest truth I can't fully remember if I was looking through the scope or not but that's how the memory is in my mind, perhaps I was so startled that is what I recall???

Now if this isnt a U turn, I dont know what is.....I should have stopped reading after the 20 years part when the original post said 10 years ago....

Anyway, we all get the point....and retraction of a very confident first statement


It was a dangerous and stupid close call that I learned from. I have since avoided heavily hunted areas.

I have a lot of respect for you guys and I just wanted to try to explain things better.
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Now if this isnt the u-turn of the year, I dont know what is.

I should have stopped reading right after the “20 years ago” statement when the original and very confident post indicated 10 years ago

We get it....you are regrettful. Some will believe regret for the circumstances, others will believe for the original post...
 
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Eagleye said:
THIS!!!! I was one of the first instructors in mainland BC to teach hunter education [CORE] program in 1972. Once the program was fully
implemented, shooting "incidents" declined dramatically. As an instructor, I got statistics each year outlining the firearms related incidents.

There were many years which contained none, but even in the years when we had one or two, it was usually obvious that clothing color
would have had little to do with the incident. Most of the incidents were, pure and simple, failure to use safe firearms handling protocol.

I am reluctant to call most of these occurrences "accidents" since a true accident is usually a freak situation that could neither be foreseen
nor prevented easily. Dave.
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there was also a treehugger anti hunting fellow in the late 90's early 2000's..... I forget the exact year. He filed a report that he had been shot at by hunters and had a bullet hole in his backpack or something. The details of the story elude me but it happened and was in the the news. In the end it was proven that the fellow staged and fabricated the entire incident.
 
Cranky Pants said:
I'd like to explain my previous post a little better. It was my mistake for being not as descriptive as I should have been.

The incident happened 20 years ago and I was definitely less experienced.

The location was a 100 foot buffer around a brook between 2 clear cuts and the previous 3 trips in I had spooked deer from the thicket. Trees were laid down every which way and for the guy to come from the direction he did, he would be on his hands and knees for much of it.

At no point was I aiming at he brown motion in the thicket, I had the rifle pointed at an opening outside it- it just happened that's where he stepped out so he walked to where the rifle was pointed (still not an excuse and I agree, should not have taken safety off)


It shook me up so bad, I had to leave shortly after. Only to find this guy had parked right beside me so he obviously knew I was there and he still chose not to wear any orange- in violation of the laws here.



To tell the God's honest truth I can't fully remember if I was looking through the scope or not but that's how the memory is in my mind, perhaps I was so startled that is what I recall???




It was a dangerous and stupid close call that I learned from. I have since avoided heavily hunted areas.




I have a lot of respect for you guys and I just wanted to try to explain things better.
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You are not the first that this has happened to and wont be the last. Might be the first one to admit it on a public forum.

Similar thing happened to a fellow in our hunting group. Thicket of small beech tree behind the stand that the deer very often walked around. The kind of trees that dont easily loose their leaves in the fall.

Hunted this area for numerous years and always had deer walk one side of it or the other.

Well my friend heard the slow soft footsteps,behind the thicket, associated with hearing deer in the bush. He repositioned himself so that he could get an easy shot. Well, wouldnt you know it, out pops a guy in full camo.

Lucky for him that i hunted with a bunch of levelheaded guys.

And yes, orange is mandatory.


Always keep the bugger hook of the bang switch untill you absolutely, positively identify your quarry
 
There has been a recent trend in firearms training whereby even when a firearm is being brandished for a lawful purpose (such as a police officer conducting a stop, or an arrest, or a person brandishing a firearm in self-defense), the brandished firearm should not be pointed at the 'suspect' (or 'assailant') unless and until shooting is indicated. Pointing at the target (before the decision to fire) is seen as too risky; the chance of an unintended discharge to just too high. So, instead of pointing the firearm at the 'suspect' (or 'assailant'), the current training trend is toward maintaining the muzzle just off of the target, either low, or to one side, unless and until you actually shoot at it.

Hunters could learn from that.
 
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