Reminds me of the woman who claimed that someone had shot her house and had the bullet to prove it. She produced a whole live cartridge.
Man dies following hunting accident in Nova Scotia: RCMP
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Reminds me of the woman who claimed that someone had shot her house and had the bullet to prove it. She produced a whole live cartridge.
How the story changes, when all of the facts are known.lol
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I wouldn't feel too safe just because I wore orange. Some years ago a fellow was killed near here when his partner shot at movement in the willows, allegedly expecting a moose. The victim was wearing one piece hunter orange coveralls. Despite having suffered a belly wound from a .30/06, he stayed alive long enough for the helicopter to arrive. Booze is colorblind.
What is game worth? In 2006 we traveled to Tanzania, the point of the trip was buffalo, and I wanted one badly. One day we observed a large bull, facing us though an opening in the bush at perhaps 150 yards, our tracker was 25 yards ahead of us, and he immediately hit the deck. The PH yelled shoot - I refused. There is no way I'm going to shoot over a man when shooting is not required to save his life, no matter how badly I wanted that head. The buff I finally got wasn't as good, but my conscience is clear.
What is game worth? In 2006 we traveled to Tanzania, the point of the trip was buffalo, and I wanted one badly. One day we observed a large bull, facing us though an opening in the bush at perhaps 150 yards, our tracker was 25 yards ahead of us, and he immediately hit the deck. The PH yelled shoot - I refused. There is no way I'm going to shoot over a man when shooting is not required to save his life, no matter how badly I wanted that head. The buff I finally got wasn't as good, but my conscience is clear.
Yep real funny. I wonder what some would be like if they had of worn a seat belt years ago and didnot hit a windshield with their head Oh Boy
You keep not wearing orange some may thank you someday
Your opinion is just that the numbers don't lie
Cheers
As they say
Then you have the Darwin Award Alumni, or those who will cancel themselves out of the human race due to natural selection, no matter what you tell them.
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- Location
- West Quebec
Hopefully she was charged for making a false claim
This brings back a story a few years back.
Not hunting, but out in the bush shooting.
Me'n me partner at the time were having some fun shooting targets out at a place I called, "Looky's Range".
We discussed bullet movement and turbulence.
It was suggested I go close to the targets and he would pound a round or two at them and I could feel the
bullet turbulence.
I think back at this and shake me tete.
Sqwattitted behind a big ol'stump wondering 'bout dem reekohshays.
Turbulence.............don't think so.
Soft between the ears..........................maybe.
Did I feel endangered?
No, but I sure wasn't comfortable with the idea.
Why?
Dunnoh.
Stump was bigg'nuff and I was far nuff away that is shouldn't of bothered me.
Sort of like sitting in a trap house with all them shotgun shewters pounding away overhead.
Seat belts are a good idea when driving to your hunting spot. The most dangerous part of a hunting trip will always be the drive to and from. On the other hand, hunting is one of the most safe activities a person can do. Far safer than riding a bicycle.
I wouldn't discourage someone from wearing orange if it makes them feel more comfortable, but all the examples you listed to suggest that orange would make BC hunting safer turned out to be irrelevant. As you say, the numbers don't lie.
The only example that I know of where I have hunted with and without hunter orange restrictions is Alberta, so the before and after comparison is valid. Comparing different provinces ad states with different hunter densities, different terrain, different hunting methods, introduces more variables that make the data less credible. Obviously the examples that you posted are not applicable,, because color was not a factor.
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I have hunted both NS and Alberta and it is like apples and oranges. Plus it is not an option here not to wear orange and I agree with it
You have to have other hunters around you to shot them
The few times I have been out there I don't recall seeing anyone hunting where we were other than a few guys in trucks driving by with seemed like miles away. Here they are on top of you
Cheers
Nope
They have not claim as to how you die, just that you’re dead. Or not.
If you’re dead, they pay. Simple concept.
So no one has any manners in NS?
I can’t imagine using a blind I didn’t make myself
Or setting up next to someone else’s blind
But if they prove you took your own life they will not pay
Hunting here with no orange when it is law could it not be seen as similar
Insurance companies will look for any angle to get out of a claim
Cheers
1963beretta
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Only if you commit suicide within the first two years of a policy being written an issued. After two years, they still have to pay
Bingo
Nope not all. Didnot pay the BIL's wife and I just checked mine and it says nope also under exclusions. Would this not fall under reckless endangerment the no orange when mandatory
While some life insurance policies have a suicide clause that allows for payment of benefits after the policy is over two years old, not all policies have this clause.
Other exclusions
Exclusions are situations in which the insurer will not pay out benefits. Suicide is one of the more common exclusions on life policies, but you will also see things like reckless endangerment on there as well. This means if you die racing a car, your beneficiary may not receive benefits.
If you are concerned about what is covered under your life insurance, contact your Financial Advisor and ask them about your specific concerns.
1963beretta
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Is it possible that insurance laws are different in Nova Scotia? Ontario has a 2 year contestability period which I thought was something that all provinces shared. For insurance companies to enforce exclusions, they have to prove that the policy was issued under fraudulent or a false application. For example, if an applicant has what is deemed to be a dangerous job or dangerous hobbies (sky diving, scuba diving) PRIOR to a policy being issued and its not disclosed, then an insurance company may challenge. If someone picks up one of those activities after a policy is issued, too bad for the insurance company. Once the policy passes the two year contestability period, the insurance company is pretty much screwed unless they can prove that the policy was specifically applied to pay a death benefit for a undisclosed health issue. In the case you suggested, the insurance company would have to prove the person was suicidal prior to the policy being issued, and it was never disclosed during the underwriting period because the applicant had intentions to commit suicide at some point in the future and took out this policy specifically to cover this planned or undisclosed event
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1963beretta
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Vaughan, Ontario
Another thing to consider with regards to exclusions is that they are often included because of a finding during the underwriting process. For example, if it is disclosed by an applicant that he/she has problems with mental health and suicide, or it is documented somewhere within medical notes with a family physician or on the MIB, then an insurance company can issue a life policy excluding that particular cause of death as it is a pre-existing condition. In your example of a life policy not paying out could potentially be because it was a pre-existing condition. During a life insurance application, an applicant will be asked about participation in dangerous activities. Again, it is possible that an insurance company will issue a policy with an exclusion for a said dangerous activity. Hunting is not considered dangerous in a life insurance application and would never be featured in an exclusion
What if you're out for a nature walk, and not wearing orange - would the insurance still weasel out because it was hunting season, and you got shot? Wearing orange should have no difference between whether a person is hunting or not (it's about getting other hunters to see you), but it's kind of hard to legislate that the whole world has to wear orange for the season, so easier to pick on the hunters.
