Map of 117000 acres of crown land lost

Ots said:
The land is for development purposes that's why most of it is waterfront. The two to five acre parcels will for the most part be severed and have cottages or homes built on them and sold. The whole idea behind the land claim is to create economic opportunities for the algonquins and sale of the land is really the only way to generate revenue from it.
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Who in the government do I contact for my free land giveaway, I could use the extra money so do you think they will give me some free waterfront property to build on and sell? Or am I like the rest of you, if I WANT it, I have to BUY it with my income from my 2 full time jobs I have? and even then, I still cant afford land up north LOL. So seriously, can I have some FREE land also???
 
I'll sign any and all petitions, I use the Baron Canyon area all the time. This is BS. Any more info that people can share about how to help prevent this please post it so I can get involved somehow.
 
Call this number to voice your concerns 1 855 690 7070 Shelly dumechelle make sure to ask how transferring all this land over to an algonquin owned corporation to develop at their whim (or their investors) is good for the algonquins ten generations from now? What will they have left? Voicing our concerns with her however is just a starting point. Ask for the contact info of a negotiator? An algonquin chief?

I believe our main strategy for this should be to make this look bad for future generations of algonquins.. It shouldn't be hard because, well it is bad. Ten generations from now they will have none of this land left and who will they blame?
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
If you read the linked pages ( www .tanakiwin.com ), you'll see there are about 7,000 Algonquins involved in the Eastern Ontario land claims settlement.
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"7000 of Algonquin descent" in both Ontario and Quebec. Kind of vague.
Wikipedia says the Golden Lake band only has 1800 members.
"The Algonquins of Pikwàkanagàn First Nation, formerly known as the Golden Lake First Nation, are an Algonquin First Nation in Ontario, Canada. Their territory is located in the former township of South Algona (now part of Bonnechere Valley) in the Ottawa Valley on Golden Lake.
As of October, 2008, the registered population of the First Nation was 1,992 people, of which only 406 people lived on their own reserve."
History
In September 1856, five families petitioned the Governor General for a grant of 200 acres (81 ha) of land per family since their hunting grounds had been opened up for settlement and sale. Their request was denied. However on September 17, 1873, the Algonquins of Pikwàkanagàn received Crown Patent to a total of 1,561 acres (632 ha), which became the First Nation's reserve.

According to Wikipedia, they do have a reserve but never signed a treaty.

Personally, I feel the government is giving them too much land...luckily for me I hunt with my Dad and sometimes my uncle and both properties
are privately owned.
 
The land ownership is being transferred to them so they can decide who hunts on it and who doesn't. It will be just like any other privately owned parcel of land, up to the owners to decide who is allowed and who is not.
 
I'm not sure why you doubt it. I know it seems absurd but I'm pasting this right out of the document, which you can find at http://www.tanakiwin.com/aip/Algonquin_Preliminary_Draft_AIP_Dec_2012.pdf

5.1.3 Subject to the exceptions set out in the Final Agreement, the Settlement
Lands identified in 5.1.1 and 5.1.2 will be transferred in fee simple
absolute and will include all surface and subsurface rights including,
without limitation, all Minerals on, under or within those lands.

5.8.1 Except as otherwise provided in the Final Agreement, access to or across
Settlement Lands will be governed by the laws that apply to fee simple
lands in Ontario, including the Road Access Act, the public right of
navigation and laws relating to access to the shoreline for mariners in
distress.
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fee simple n. absolute title to land, free of any other claims against the title, which one can sell or pass to another by will or inheritance.
 
oneskilledshooter said:
The lands will essentially be private property and belong to the Algonquin. We won't be able to use it or hunt on it. I don't know why this issue isn't getting more attention in the media or on CGN.
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Yet they will still have access to/use the rest of the crown land thats out there.. Had a long talk with a women at the MNR the other day.. Totally pointless. The only thing i got out of the convo was that they will be getting land, money and to use what they are already using.. Seems like a Win-Win for them. Gotta love it :D

I would guess its not getting alot of attention from people because to those that arent affected dont have to worry so they dont care
 
nick7 said:
Yet they will still have access to/use the rest of the crown land thats out there.. Had a long talk with a women at the MNR the other day.. Totally pointless. The only thing i got out of the convo was that they will be getting land, money and to use what they are already using.. Seems like a Win-Win for them. Gotta love it :D

I would guess its not getting alot of attention from people because to those that arent affected dont have to worry so they dont care
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The MNR's job is not to fight for hunters. They do some good things but arguing with the government that pays their salaries' is probably not high on their list of priorities. You're better off calling your federal, provincial and municipal govt reps.
 
Ikantski said:
The MNR's job is not to fight for hunters. They do some good things but arguing with the government that pays their salaries' is probably not high on their list of priorities. You're better off calling your federal, provincial and municipal govt reps.
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Ya your right. I didnt call, she called me because i have a Bear Management Area in the affected area, asking how it affects me and i told her what i thought about the whole situation
 
Ikantski said:
The MNR's job is not to fight for hunters. They do some good things but arguing with the government that pays their salaries' is probably not high on their list of priorities. You're better off calling your federal, provincial and municipal govt reps.
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Ya your right. I didnt call, she called me because i have a Bear Management Area in the affected area, asking how it affects me and i told her what i thought about the whole situation
 
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