Marihuana at Hunting Camp.

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FreedomIsn'tFree said:
I bet you are right. No one wants to be labeled a pot head, well not till it's legal anyways. I smoked weed for many years and even did my electrical schooling while high most times. I haven't smoked in many years and only because of drug testing at work. I may indulge again when I retire in the next few years and enjoy being stoned while fishing and enjoying my days. I did some of my exams after a few puffs and scored 100% on some of them because I could relax, not being stressed, while doing them. I will add that many of the best trades people I know smoke weed, in their free time, are always at work and work harder than most.
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Speak for yourself, I have no problem with it at all, lol.
 
Superbrad said:
I run and own a camp......

I do have rules...... I think most people in here spouting off about camps having rules have never been in one.....

I go out of the way to keep the rules as unrestrictive as possible, but they are necessary to ensure work is distributed, stuff gets done and we all leave camp and have had a good time looking back on our time there...

1- I have all walks of life in my camp...... 10 people, men, women, sons and daughters, serious year round hunters and shooters, and guys that are into it one week a year......

2- I would “guesstimate” salary levels in camp range from about $40k a year to $130k a year........ everything from general managers to janitors, to butchers (handy)..... I can certainly vouch that both marijuana and alcohol use does not necessarily correlate to your job, monetary status etc....

3- I have a “no inebriation, nothing “hardcore” rule in place..... if the guns are put away and choring is done, and you want to have your fun, then have at it..... this means, if you want to have a few pints or to smoke a joint outside then that is your business and not mine...... that being I said, if you spend your whole night with a small pair of scissors, a pack of zig zags and a baggie of weed or a tumbler and a bottle of Jim beam, you WILL be staying in camp the next morning.... as “camp boss”, I make sure to tell everyone that, if I tell you you are staying in camp, you are staying in camp.....

4- I buy a 60 of baileys for camp every year for morning coffee and I am always the first one up..... I mak coffee for the gang as they get up, and if they want a shot, I throw one in..... one..... this leaves you legal to drive, so therefore doesn’t leave you “inebriated” IMOP..... plus the gang gets up easily an hour before we head out... sorry to the many blazers following this thread, but
I wouldn’t allow a morning joint...

5- we run dogs at camp and do several runs a day.. usually from about 7 to 2...... we break for lunch at noon..... at which point everyone is allowed one beer...... nothing more..... also, many of us go out for the “night watch”....if you go out for night watch, then no alcohol or anything else for you until you get back.....

As was stated earlier, my camp my rules..... but by keeping it reasonable, it doesn’t need to be restrictive...

Yes, rules suck...... but unfortunately, common sense isn’t all that common..
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Superbrad said:
I am not going to start digging through court dockets to find cases.... The fact is, it's not legal to leave your rifle propped up against a wall at hunt camp for the night without a trigger lock... And considering one guy got charged at the camp a year ago for putting his rifle in the scabbard of his four wheeler 5 minutes after legal light, I would rather not take a chance.... It's a criminal charge that has the potential to stay with you for the rest of your life....

At the end of the day, here are my "rules"

- Dues are to be paid by October 31st (This is so I am not dishing out of pocket for food for ten guys)
- No hunting under the influence (Alcohol or Pot)
- When you come in for the night, put your gun in the locker
- If you use the camp out of season, make sure when you leave that the propane is off, generator is full and so is the woodbox (So the next guy coming in doesn't have to do it)

If having these rules in place makes me some sort of dictator in your eyes, then I don't quite know what to say about that......



Mature.... Very mature.....
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To be fair, your first post regarding your "rules" came across far more like a Dictatorship than your last.

Grown ass men being told they are only permitted to have one beer at lunch.... Give me a break.
 
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Being lucky to have purchased a chunk of land with some of my friends years ago, and putting a lot of sweat and equity building a hunting camp, I understand what Superbrad is saying. "Rules" are perhaps the wrong choice of word.

The same guys go hunting there 2-3 times a year. Once in awhile, there will be guests, including the individual (friend's son) which I referred to in my original post. He is smart enough to understand respect to others, and will no doubt self medicate outside the living quarters. I, nor the others, have any issues with that.

We prefer using the word "chores" instead of "rules". All know what needs to get done daily ( chopping wood, generator fill up, cooking, cleaning camp, etc, etc). When someone occasionally "forgets", he is "shamed", and life goes on...lol. All know about firearms safety, and none need to be reminded of it.

Once again, I personally have no issues with individuals using marihuana at camp, in moderation, and in a way that will not interfere with anyone else's lifestyle. I will not get into a pizzing contest in regards to substances abuse, as this was not the intent of this post.
 
doublelung said:
To be fair, your first post regarding your "rules" came across far more like a Dictatorship than your last.

Grown ass men being told they are only permitted to have one beer at lunch.... Give me a break.
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Like I said earlier, these aren't written rules with a sign off... and, other than the clean up and shutdown when you leave "rule", none of them were actually made by me.....

The one beer at lunch thing came with the camp when I bought it (had been hunting there for years before buying the place).... I think it was made with the presumption that you can have one beer and still drive legally... The "Grown ass men" can have 20 beers at lunch if they like.... they just cant go hunting afterwards....
 
I don’t buy that “one beer” rule, I know for a fact I would blow over after a beer (mind you I rarely drink)

Once pot is legalized, will smoking a joint with lunch be the same as having a beer with lunch? I would think so.
 
Decker9 said:
I don’t buy that “one beer” rule, I know for a fact I would blow over after a beer (mind you I rarely drink)

Once pot is legalized, will smoking a joint with lunch be the same as having a beer with lunch? I would think so.
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It's really unusual for someone to be over .05 BAC after only one beer.... As for the joint at lunch instead of a beer, I am not sure.... I am not a pot smoker and the guy in my camp that is usually only breaks out his little altoids tin at night..... He has proven himself safe in all other aspects, and I would expect him to self govern in this one as well..... The fact is the unwritten "One beer at lunch rule" and the "No drinking while hunting rule were" were put into place because there were a couple of guys incapable of self governing.....
 
AbLonewolf said:
Being lucky to have purchased a chunk of land with some of my friends years ago, and putting a lot of sweat and equity building a hunting camp, I understand what Superbrad is saying. "Rules" are perhaps the wrong choice of word.

The same guys go hunting there 2-3 times a year. Once in awhile, there will be guests, including the individual (friend's son) which I referred to in my original post. He is smart enough to understand respect to others, and will no doubt self medicate outside the living quarters. I, nor the others, have any issues with that.

We prefer using the word "chores" instead of "rules". All know what needs to get done daily ( chopping wood, generator fill up, cooking, cleaning camp, etc, etc). When someone occasionally "forgets", he is "shamed", and life goes on...lol. All know about firearms safety, and none need to be reminded of it.

Once again, I personally have no issues with individuals using marihuana at camp, in moderation, and in a way that will not interfere with anyone else's lifestyle. I will not get into a pizzing contest in regards to substances abuse, as this was not the intent of this post.
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Pretty much exactly how our hunt camp runs. Certainly no written rules like you say but lots of chores to be done and everyone knows what they are. Personally I’m not a very good cook and I know it so I excel at doing dishes and bringing in the firewood. All the guys are respectful and although it doesn’t get mentioned, if one guy starts to be a problem, he certainly wouldn’t be invited back next year.

As for drinking and smoking, respectful is the key. Smoking outside and adults shouldn’t have to be told how much they can or cannot drink. If they have to be told, they won’t be coming back next year. One beer for lunch rule... now that’s downright funny, but most of our guys don’t have any at lunch time at any rate.

As for getting charged for having a rifle in a scabbard 5 minutes after legal shooting. Might be pickey but rules are rules and guys in our camp carry a rifle sock in a pocket just for this reason. I like staying on watch right up to legal shooting time and the sock is the answer to stay legal. Guns are not “in storage” at the camp, they are placed in the rack without any trigger locks or other storage devices and that’s perfectly legal. One camp not far from us went out hunting one day and there was a shotgun in the rack when the local CO came by and found the door unlocked and unoccupied. He laid a charge for unsafe storage. That’s another reason not to give the MNR a key to the gate unless your camp in on crown land. A lot of the younger CO’s like to look good to the boss by laying charges and they are certainly on a fishing trip with their questions and storytelling.
 
I don’t understand why you feel the need to justify the camp rules to a few fellows here Brad? That’s what camp is like. Any I was invited into had rules be they written or not and they were accepted as is or just don’t participate. I never had issue with it and never met anyone who did? Most were happy to be part of the camp experience or be invited as a guest to one and if they did not feel the way it was set up was to their liking nobody got bent out of shape if they didn’t return.
 
Superbrad said:
It's really unusual for someone to be over .05 BAC after only one beer.... As for the joint at lunch instead of a beer, I am not sure.... I am not a pot smoker and the guy in my camp that is usually only breaks out his little altoids tin at night..... He has proven himself safe in all other aspects, and I would expect him to self govern in this one as well..... The fact is the unwritten "One beer at lunch rule" and the "No drinking while hunting rule were" were put into place because there were a couple of guys incapable of self governing.....
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I agree with you that handling of loaded firearms while under the influence is not generally a good idea and it is your camp so you get to make the rules and apparently others are completely willing to abide by your rules. That being said, your pictures of camp reminded me of church youth group I used to have to attend.
As for people who aren't capable of "self-governing", I used to be around a fair number of people who where unable to "self govern" when it came to alcohol. One of them left on a stretcher for the hospital with alcohol poisoning, something I doubt happened at your hunting camp.
I believe the biggest issue most have with 'rules' at hunt camp is you are dealing with adults, if you need rules to enjoy being with other people you know in the middle of nowhere then you probably shouldn't be with those people and if you feel like making a ton of arbitrary rules then you will likely be spending it with less people you know in the camp (some might consider that a good thing).
 
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