marstar 70,000/10,000 SKS, eta aug 20th, price $189 new military.

Thats all fine and dandy right now, but one day not to distant in the future there will be liberal elected as PM, then guess whats most likely to occur, you guessed it, sks's are now either restricted or most likey prohibited and now your stuck with several hundred pounds of useless metal and wood with no takers. Its just a matter of time before those idiots regain control over us once again. Just my opinion.

I bought an AR15 in 1989 for $800.00. That same AR15 today sells for $1500.00. When I bought it it was non-restricted. Today, it's restricted. I don't see it's classification hurting the value at all. There are hundreds of thousands of AR's around that sell for $2000.00+, and no one bats an eye to owning 10 of them. They see the value in converting their dollars to hard goods.

In ten years, our dollar could be worth toilet paper. That's good news for you if you spent $3500.00 on 30 guns 10 years prior when your money had value. You've now converted your dollars into hard goods. You've hedged your bets against worthless paper and the economy. I read a phrase once: Buy guns, gold, and ammo. Today, you can buy 1120 rounds of 7.62X39 for $160.00 and SKS's even BEFORE these come in for $169.50 in a ten pack. Your SKS's will retain their value even if they don't double in price. Your Savings Bonds won't.

If your SKS suddenly goes prohibited, AWESOME! How many gun owners have them, half a million? That's 500,000 new 12-5 gun owners in Canada. I can see AK47's and a host of other 12-5 prohib gun values double overnight because 500,000 new gun owners just came onto the market. I see dollar signs for all the dealers selling parts and accessories for them licking their lips. Do you think the Lieberals will allow that? Doubtful. I also bought an AK47 in 1989 for $197.00, non-restricted! Today they are prohibs. While that was TWENTY years ago, that same AK47 sells for over $400.00 today. Even if you hold your Canada Savings Bonds for 20 years, they still won't double in price. ($1,112.86 will be your total interest over twenty years; your SKS's will still beat a bond)

And then finally there is the TSHTF consideration, but you need to have a tight, shiny tin foil hat for that. But many gun owners don't discount that variable either.

I am just trying to find the positive in whatever comes our way as gun owners.
 
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There's no chance that any future prohibitions would be lumped in the same class as previous ones. Your SKS will never be a lottery ticket for being elegible to buy an AK.

You should not be discouraged to buy an SKS and stock up on ammo for this reason, though.
 
CURTTON; "the russian and the new marstar SKS shipment are good investment ."

LETS make certain we do not mix/confuse the two....
Marstar has a very large number of USED SKS rifles, of many nationalities, been collected, sorted, packed etc, etc.

WE ALSO have purchased a substantial quantity of BRAND NEW SKS, they ARE new, not refurbs, not reconditioned, in their original 1950s and 1960s crates....

THE PRICES WILL NOT be the same for both lots


PLEASE DO NOT YELL AT ME IF NO REPLIES I AM GONE FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS
John


Where were the brand new 1950's/60's SKS rifles made? Russia? Apologies if this has already been answered, it's a long thread...:)
 
Where were the brand new 1950's/60's SKS rifles made? Russia? Apologies if this has already been answered, it's a long thread...:)



Russia made SKSs from 1949 to 1955/56 only. China,Romania,and Yugoslavia also built them starting in the mid to late 50s. In the 60s you can add East Germany,Albania,North Korea,and North Vietnam to the list
 
There's no chance that any future prohibitions would be lumped in the same class as previous ones. Your SKS will never be a lottery ticket for being elegible to buy an AK.

You should not be discouraged to buy an SKS and stock up on ammo for this reason, though.

Considering the SKS is a descendant of the AK47, I am betting it will.
 
Considering the SKS is a descendant of the AK47, I am betting it will.

The SKS 45 is hardly a "descendant" of the AK47. Not only did the SKS precede the AK in adoption, it has no similarity except for caliber. Mechanisms are entirely different, apart from both being gas operated.

There is no legal provision for any new additions to any established 12(X) category.
If any prohibitions are done by Order in Council, confiscation without compensation is the only option, without any grandfathering.
If there were legislated prohibition, creating a new grandfathered 12(8) category, it would be limited to SKS type rifles - and whatever others were lumped in at the same time.
 
The SKS 45 is hardly a "descendant" of the AK47. Not only did the SKS precede the AK in adoption, it has no similarity except for caliber. Mechanisms are entirely different, apart from both being gas operated.

There is no legal provision for any new additions to any established 12(X) category.
If any prohibitions are done by Order in Council, confiscation without compensation is the only option, without any grandfathering.
If there were legislated prohibition, creating a new grandfathered 12(8) category, it would be limited to SKS type rifles - and whatever others were lumped in at the same time.

Great! More SKS's for the rest of us then! :)
 
China has their fingers into alot of African countries. Going for the natural resources.

Are chinese SKS any good?

Better fit and finish in the older ones...early 50's and 60's.

Pretty much the same overall quality.

Chrome lined barrels in the Chinese ones, which may be more resistant to the rode hard and put away wet system of African rifle care.

Also Hopefully these are not battle field pick-ups.

I saw a bunch of of Yugos two years ago that looked like they were found laying in a ditch next to the rotting corpses of their former owner for 10 years. I doubt these were from Marstar.

Anyway I'm watching this thread with interest.
 
CURTTON; "the russian and the new marstar SKS shipment are good investment ."

LETS make certain we do not mix/confuse the two....
Marstar has a very large number of USED SKS rifles, of many nationalities, been collected, sorted, packed etc, etc.

WE ALSO have purchased a substantial quantity of BRAND NEW SKS, they ARE new, not refurbs, not reconditioned, in their original 1950s and 1960s crates....

THE PRICES WILL NOT be the same for both lots


PLEASE DO NOT YELL AT ME IF NO REPLIES I AM GONE FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS
John

I'm really puzzled now; should I buy a new huge gun safe to prepare for coming SKS rifles or start building a gun room in a basement…considering the renovation tax credit I'm leaning towards the room…:D
 
There is no legal provision for any new additions to any established 12(X) category........
If any prohibitions are done by Order in Council, confiscation without compensation is the only option, without any grandfathering.
..............creating a new grandfathered 12(8) category, it would be limited to SKS type rifles - and whatever others were lumped in at the same time.

Okay, so to segway for just a second.......apologies for the short hijack....but, I'm not really understanding this issue.

Reality is I cannot see any future sitting government just arbitrarily taking away firearms without compensation. That may have worked in the past, but I just don't see that they could ignore the thousands of individuals who would loose - potentially, millions of dollars. I also think that we (as gun owners) are much more aware and savvy to government than years ago.

That having been said, what prevents a sitting majority govt from establishing new categories as new, or amending legislation? I mean, really...couldn't they just establish a whole series of new grandfathering categories...like 13, 14, 15....whatever??

By the way, I want 10 of 'em in a crate.

Are they here yet? :rolleyes:
 
TIRIAQ;
"creating a new grandfathered 12(8) category, it would be limited to SKS type rifles - and whatever others were lumped in at the same time. "

You are closer than you think to the real facts....
Suggest a bit of research 12.8 is already there, all they have to do is fill in the blanks with whatever "evil" weapon they wish to control
John
 
I, for one, do not wish the SKS to be re-classified prohibited.

That will diminish the value of the SKS, not that they are worth much in the first place. Look at the value of 12-6 handguns these days.

Even if we're all grandfathered, we will all go to the big happy target range someday. The market for prohibs is getting smaller everyday.
 
AR is only restricted, which can be owned by people who have restricted PAL. the restricted market is still 'live'; new people joins this market every year.

prohibited is another story. the market is 'dead'; the market is not growing for sure, but instead shrinking every year. When people get older, their priority changes and for any reason, particular health reason, most of them will get out of the game eventually. now, you have a non-growing market with more and more people try to sell, but less and less people will buy.

no, the government will not classify any gun they try to prohibit into the existing 12.X. They can create as many as 12.1000000 if they want to. The idea is once all of the people in a certain class are 'gone', the class goes with them as well; so, the problem solves itself over time, how nice. :cool:



I bought an AR15 in 1989 for $800.00. That same AR15 today sells for $1500.00. When I bought it it was non-restricted. Today, it's restricted. I don't see it's classification hurting the value at all. There are hundreds of thousands of AR's around that sell for $2000.00+, and no one bats an eye to owning 10 of them.
 
You are closer than you think to the real facts....
I suggest a bit of research.... 12.8 is already there, all they have to do is fill in the blanks with whatever "evil" weapon they wish to control
John

How about you import just about every 'evil' weapon you can think of and give us a chance to own them before they go 12.8 :dancingbanana:
 
AR is only restricted, which can be owned by people who have restricted PAL. the restricted market is still 'live'; new people joins this market every year.

prohibited is another story. the market is 'dead'; the market is not growing for sure, but instead shrinking every year. When people get older, their priority changes and for any reason, particular health reason, most of them will get out of the game eventually. now, you have a non-growing market with more and more people try to sell, but less and less people will buy.

no, the government will not classify any gun they try to prohibit into the existing 12.X. They can create as many as 12.1000000 if they want to. The idea is once all of the people in a certain class are 'gone', the class goes with them as well; so, the problem solves itself over time, how nice. :cool:
:agree:
Only if there was away that we could go threw the red tape loops so that this would never be posible.
 
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