Marstar NP-29's sold out already!
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NP29 Fun
I warned all of you NOT to buy ONE ! You were not listening !
I distinctly recall saying, "Don't buy ONE, buy TWO of them!"
I'm not promoting 3W.Marstar.ca's stuff, but frankly, the NP29 is the best value around the Norinco product line. Just like the M14's , they sell out very quickly. I'm so happy that I bought mine for $ 400 plus from a member of the CGN board before that slowboat arrived. Now at least, I've got ONE in my hands.
The only criticism I have of Norinco's shzt (not a slight on Marstar), is that they cannot (will not, do not) get more NP29's in stock on a regular basis. That's all the negative krap I have to say about Norinco NP29's. I'm not saying anything about their other pistols since I don't know much about them... only the 1911A1's since they are the best value going.
So I guess we should start a thread about the "Next NP29 Boatload", eh?
Cheers all,
Barney
I warned all of you NOT to buy ONE ! You were not listening !
I distinctly recall saying, "Don't buy ONE, buy TWO of them!"
I'm not promoting 3W.Marstar.ca's stuff, but frankly, the NP29 is the best value around the Norinco product line. Just like the M14's , they sell out very quickly. I'm so happy that I bought mine for $ 400 plus from a member of the CGN board before that slowboat arrived. Now at least, I've got ONE in my hands.
The only criticism I have of Norinco's shzt (not a slight on Marstar), is that they cannot (will not, do not) get more NP29's in stock on a regular basis.
That's all the negative krap I have to say about Norinco NP29's. I'm not saying anything about their other pistols since I don't know much about them... only the 1911A1's since they are the best value going. So I guess we should start a thread about the "Next NP29 Boatload", eh?
Cheers all,
Barney
It would be nice of Marstar would import Norinco's enhanced models of the 1911 single stack. I suspect they would be winners here as well. Liked my NP 29 but I had a STI Trojan in 9MM so I let mine go to Ardent. Great shooters and a "Best Buy" IMHO. The biggest downside to the 1911 single stack 9MM is the fact you are limited to 9 round mags. I know some 10 rd supers will work but don't understand why they don't make 10 rd. mags for this pattern of pistol.
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Canuck44 said:
A lot of people insist on flush fit mags, and you can not get 10 rounds of 9mm into a flush fit 1911 mag. It would have to be extended slightly. A ten round .38 super mag is a hard fit in the gun with the slide forward, and the 9mm case is .010 thicker ahead of the extractor groove.
With regards to the enhanced models, I suspect if they were available for shipment, Johnone would be bringing them in. It would seem there is a vast gulf between what Norinco advertize as being available, and what they have on hand ready to ship.
Canuck223
Well they don't have any problem shipping the enhanced and "Police" models to the Phillipines where they are readily available. I doubt that it is a supply problem. I suspect it has to do with a price point issue and where the most profits can be made. Would be interested to hear what Marstar rep has to say.
As to 9MM 10 rd mags the only thing I hve ever heard that leads me to believe it is a technical issue is the 9MM has a tapered case which might present problems when you go to 10 rds in a single stack magazine. As far as flush fit I think that is a non-starter as 8 rd mags for the .45acp have been around since christ made water and they extend below the grip. Installing a mag well on the gun almost requires and extension to the mag if fast reloading of the gun is the objective.
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Well they don't have any problem shipping the enhanced and "Police" models to the Phillipines where they are readily available. I doubt that it is a supply problem. I suspect it has to do with a price point issue and where the most profits can be made. Would be interested to hear what Marstar rep has to say.
As to 9MM 10 rd mags the only thing I hve ever heard that leads me to believe it is a technical issue is the 9MM has a tapered case which might present problems when you go to 10 rds in a single stack magazine. As far as flush fit I think that is a non-starter as 8 rd mags for the .45acp have been around since christ made water and they extend below the grip. Installing a mag well on the gun almost requires and extension to the mag if fast reloading of the gun is the objective.
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Canuck44 said:
Johnone would be the one to ask about the availability of the enhanced and police models. I would not care to engage in speculation about price points, or potential profits. I will only say that Marstar seems to sell at a very attractive prices.
As for the flush vs extended mags, most 8 round 1911 mags are flush fit, although many come with a bumper pad (Wilson, Metalform, CMC). I agree, a magwell is very nearly mandatory if you want to reload fast, and once installed, bumper pads or extention mags are a welcome and needed accessory.
I suspect there is enough demand to make an extended 10 round 9mm mag, but we just have to convince a manufacturer. Metalform clued in about the single stack .40 and 10mm, and made a slightly extended 10 round mag, so perhaps there is some hope close to home.
I suspect there is enough demand to make an extended 10 round 9mm mag, but we just have to convince a manufacturer. Metalform clued in about the single stack .40 and 10mm, and made a slightly extended 10 round mag, so perhaps there is some hope close to home.
Especially since 3 w.marstar.ca now carries mec-gar magazines also.
Mike
Especially since 3 w.marstar.ca now carries mec-gar magazines also.
Mike
The chinese are the anchor point in this event. They have certain factories that gear up to produce 1911, do a specific number of pistols, then tool up for a run of a different product lets say shotguns.
Now comes marstar who orders lets say for argument sake 125 1911 copies. The chinese reply back that they dont have that many, and the next production run is 6 months from now.
what has been found out now is martsar now asks ... how many do you have available. Oh only 100 China would reply. Good send em, backorder the rest. So by asking the right questions, you can get action. Doing business with china is not like doing business with Brownells.
One would think if marstar is selling out so quick, that production would be ramped up. apparently not. Its the downfall of the communist work production the way they do certain runs. A throwback to the Mao years from wehat I udnerstand
Now comes marstar who orders lets say for argument sake 125 1911 copies. The chinese reply back that they dont have that many, and the next production run is 6 months from now.
what has been found out now is martsar now asks ... how many do you have available. Oh only 100 China would reply. Good send em, backorder the rest. So by asking the right questions, you can get action. Doing business with china is not like doing business with Brownells.
One would think if marstar is selling out so quick, that production would be ramped up. apparently not. Its the downfall of the communist work production the way they do certain runs. A throwback to the Mao years from wehat I udnerstand
Metalform makes flush-fitting 8 round .45ACP mags by utilizing collapsible followers. They come as OEM mags on some new Colts, such as the Gold Cup and XSE. I would imagine that the same trick could be used to make a flush-fitting 10 round 9mm mag.Canuck223 said:
capp325 said:
Nope. There just isn't enough room. The .38 super mag with 10 in will just barely allow for enough compression to seat on a closed slide. The 9mm mag would have to be at least .100 inches longer using the same follower and spring.
Just ahead of the extractor groove, the .38 super is .385 and the slightly larger semi-rim will fit into the groove of the case below. The 9mm case is .010 thicker ahead of the groove.
If someone wanted to experiment with a slightly staggered column, instead of the straight line used now, I'm sure the room could be found, but reliability might be an issue.
Hell for a tenth of an inch who would care? I still think there would be a huge demand for the magazine. A 1911 in 9MM would be one sweet gun loaded with 10 rounds for IDPA and for those shooting IPSC who prefer a single stack. Just makes sense. Canuck225 your thoughts about staggering a mag would work, even if the stagger was only at the base of the magazine with the top third of the mag single stack. Just make the mag the same width as a .45acp single stack mag. The stagger would not have to be much to allow for loading of 10 rds.
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Bob
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tiriaq said:
Sure, if you cover shipping.
As an importer, I just imported 40 pounds of stuff from China, tiny order actually.
Total cheapest shipping was $248USD, via TNT Global Express.
Your 1911 Norinco would soon double in price if it were air-freighted.
