Marstar Swedish 8mm surplus ammo

It's brass. Maybe cases can be reformed and trim it in to 8x57. I don't think the bolt face will need opening up, should be close enough.
Or ream the chamber to this caliber. But that's a one way street, and once the cheap ammo dries up.........
 
It depended on what bolt and cal your 1919 was my ww2 30.06 SG bolt 8x63 was tight but my izzy .308 bolt fed the 8x63 100% when this stuff first came to Canada years ago I along with 2 or 3 other guys converted 8mm mauser browning 1919 barrels to 8x63 I had a reamer made for this I did 2 barrels then sold the reamer to someone on CGN back then 8mm mauser 1919 barrels were easy to find not so much now.....
 
Is there an easier way to remove the bullets from these? I have a hornady inertia "hammer type" bullet puller and removing 500 bullets could get interesting lol
I've heard there are bullet removers that attach to the press but not sure on what one I would need
 
Deathrawt said:
Is there an easier way to remove the bullets from these? I have a hornady inertia "hammer type" bullet puller and removing 500 bullets could get interesting lol
I've heard there are bullet removers that attach to the press but not sure on what one I would need
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The hammer type is not the way to go. I broke mine doing these.
 
Deathrawt said:
Is there an easier way to remove the bullets from these? I have a hornady inertia "hammer type" bullet puller and removing 500 bullets could get interesting lol
I've heard there are bullet removers that attach to the press but not sure on what one I would need
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Desert_Fox said:
An RCBS Press mounted Collet puller with an 8mm collet will pull the bullets quite easily.

South Edmonton Cabelas has them in stock.
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This has all been discussed years ago here on CGN.

An Inertia Puller would be a very slow way to go , and a Collet Puller can't grip the bullets as it's all ogive outside the neck with this ammunition.

The fastest way by far results in damaged necks, so if the desire is to reuse the brass, you're pretty much back to the Inertia Puller.

Here's how to do it:

- obtain about a 12" long X 2" wide X 1/4" thick piece of steel or aluminum (larger is better, but smaller could work) and drill a 3/16" hole in the centre of the bar about 1" from the end;
- clamp the bar to a bench with the end with the hole overhanging by about 3";
- insert a round bullet first from the bottom until the neck hits the bottom of the bar;
- wiggle the round back and forth until the neck is distorted enough that you can remove the bullet with your fingers;
- place the bullet in a container and dump the powder in another container, with the now pulled round in a third container; and
- repeat until you grow weary.

Once set up, you can pull-down 250 rounds an hour easily.
 
Interesting, would Love to be one of the Boyz' in this club. Sounds like some very nice stuff-{1919} most likely Worth the 2nd Mortgage! :)
 
Here are a few old threads that are worth reading for anyone considering getting into this. That said, sit on the fence for too long and it's all in vain. I don't imagine that there's much left.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1586449-Swedish-Ammo-Poster-from-1947-8X57-and-8X63?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1586455-Notice-Found-in-1942-Dated-Swedish-Ammo-Crate-of-8X63?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1178957-8X63-Swedish-Roll-Call?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/200734-8x57-to-8x63?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1173651-Some-8X57-Loads-with-a-218-gr-Bullet?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/374843-My-New-0-312-quot-0-314-quot-and-0-316-quot-Bullets?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/849106-Powder-equivelant-for-Marstar-Flake?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/215632-Marstar-s-8x63mm-Swedish-is-all-gone!?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/200734-8x57-to-8x63?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/174512-Swedish-Military-Ball?
 
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slug said:
Often, if you seat the bullet deeper by a few thou, it will break the seal and then the bullet can be removed more easily.
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Good point - for those who use the Inertia Hammer, it's highly recommended.

P.S. It was a guy who goes by "slug" who got me into casting and lead me towards the 8X63. I think he also suggested the destructive method of pulling down powder, passed along from someone who told him. ;) Thanks.
 
I am trying to justify this purchase to myself.

I would look at a few cases, in order to reduce my per price shipping cost.

What is the value of the brass as scrap? Last i heard, brass is $2.00-$3.00/lb, but is rifle brass considered "normal" brass?
I assume this brass cannot be resized to 30.06?
From what i am reading, the powder can be re-used...and safely?
I would also consider selling off any surplus bullets that i wouldn't end up using. Was is the value of bullets like this nowadays?
 
This link provides case capacity and dimensions of the 8x63. I recall surplus 98 Mausers chambered for this caliber. They had a muzzle brake.

http://ammoguide.com/cgi-bin/ai.cgi...&cky=&curr=ai&catid=1022&domain=ammoguide.com

The logical round to compare to is the 8-06. A 30-06 necked up to 8mm.

http://ammoguide.com/cgi-bin/ai.cgi...f&cky=&curr=ai&catid=233&domain=ammoguide.com

As you can see, the 8x63 is a larger case. About 10 thou fatter at the rim. 68 vs 72 gr of water capacity. Not a huge difference.
 
Fwiw, I helped Andy pick up the ammo 10 years ago and he and I commissioned Lee to make dies. Some sets are still around, and are maybe the only 8x63 dies in existence. I still shoot and load this calibre for a Mauser 98 sporter I had reamed.

The ammo is quite reliable, I still have far more than I will ever use.
 
On another note, after I pull the bullets and powder from the cases, would the primers be of any use to someone who wants berdan primers but can't find any?
Is it possible to remove the primers without destroying them?
 
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