Mauser K98 price check

[Pblatzz]

I don't know if anyone agrees, but flame suit on...

Looks like a Russian capture without, the X with come extra touches,... Why see below.

The dirty birds are sort of peened, Yugo would have cleaned up the metal and put their crest on it.

There are two different fonts used to serialize the rifle (metal) that I can see. Looks to be forced match on the bolt, bolt shroud, safety lever as there are grind marks where the serial numbers should be.
The barrel and receiver = original. Front bands, bolt, Bolt shroud, bolt components, trigger guard, floor plate (has old serial # scratched out) are renumbered and not the same finish as the rest of the metal
around the part (see bolt) . Re-blue touch up?

Late sheet metal trigger guard with an early milled floor plate.

I think this is a as Russian capture but suspicious about all the matching serial numbers and why.

Not worth any more that a run of the mill Russian Capture K98.

Pete

 

[gaff]

typical post war refurb, not likely Russian .

 

[Cornflake Leader]

Czech front sight guard. I’ve owned a couple early Czech rebuilds where they stamped new numbers over old.

Pete, not all the Yugo rebuilds were scrubbed, some were just renumbered on the right side with bolt/stock/floor plate to match.

 

[Pblatzz]

So you figure yugo or brno rebuild?

 

[Cornflake Leader]

I’m guessing Brno but it’s not like the sight guard is proof of anything, could have been added at any time. The defaced Reichsadler is interesting, almost looks like something you might see on an Israeli rifle, likely a personal choice by a past owner.

Part of the fun. If nothing else, I bet it’s a great shooter.

 

[bros]

First.....thanks to McHoss for posting the pictures. So are we leaning away from a RC rifle? Bore is in very good shape. So whats it worth???
Thanks for all your input!!

 

[McHoss]

First.....thanks to McHoss for posting the pictures. So are we leaning away from a RC rifle? Bore is in very good shape. So whats it worth???
Thanks for all your input!!

It’s no problem at all. I’m glad to have seen them and learn about these rifles. Interesting part of history. I see one on my horizon.

 

[Cornflake Leader]

First.....thanks to McHoss for posting the pictures. So are we leaning away from a RC rifle? Bore is in very good shape. So whats it worth???
Thanks for all your input!!

If it is an earlier Czech arsenal gun, $7-800. For reasons known only to the internet, folks will pay more for RC rifles than the Czech rebuilds. I bought two last year, one for $575 and one for $650 but both were late/post war Czech receivers, yours may fetch a premium as a Gustloff stamped rifle.

Some features make some rifles more desirable than others but the general scale is ; Yugo, Israeli, Czech, RC, Norwegian, German.

 

[Pblatzz]

If it is an earlier Czech arsenal gun, $7-800. Some features make some rifles more desirable than others but the general scale is ; Yugo, Israeli, Czech, RC, Norwegian, German.

Agree.

 

[McHoss]

.......the general scale is ; Yugo, Israeli, Czech, RC, Norwegian, German.

Sorry for my ignorance but which way does that scale go? Is Yugo or German the high end?
I would assume German to be at the top. Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[Cornflake Leader]

Yugo $4-500
Israeli $5-600
Czech $6-800
RC $7-900
Norwegian $1000-1500
German $800-2500

Again, features of individual rifles may move a rifle up or down the scale. There are variants of each type (like a mint FN contract Israeli or a Norwegian that was built on a completely matching Kriegsmarine rifle) that will push a rifle right out of its category.

 

[McHoss]

Yugo $4-500
Israeli $5-600
Czech $6-800
RC $7-900
Norwegian $1000-1500
German $800-2500

Again, features of individual rifles may move a rifle up or down the scale. There are variants of each type (like a mint FN contract Israeli or a Norwegian that was built on a completely matching Kriegsmarine rifle) that will push a rifle right out of its category.

Thanks. Good info.

 

[bros]

If the stock is serialed on the outside then it isn't an original gun. Stocks had the serial applied externally and internally until about mid 1942, then were only done internally until late in the war when they were eliminated altogether. bcd4 in original configuration would not have an external serial.

Because the stock is numbered......does this generally mean that the stock has been replaced or just a number applied to the original stock at a later date?

 

[jbmauser]

Because the stock is numbered......does this generally mean that the stock has been replaced or just a number applied to the original stock at a later date?

Probably replaced. It definitely looks like a post war Czech rebuild. The VZ24 sight protector and the way the stock is numbered externally are typical traits of one of their rebuilds.

I suppose it is possible they used the original stock and a t block is still early enough that it would have been numbered internally so you could pull the wood and check. Highly unlikely though and it doesn't look like the correct stock to me. Every other part has been renumbered to match and I don't think they made any effort to reuse original parts in the rebuilds like the Norwegians did.

 

[bros]

Thanks for all the help on sorting this one out for me guys....I've learned a lot. Glad to say I didn't pay too much!
Cheers

 

[The Kurgan]

Yugo $4-500
Israeli $5-600
Czech $6-800
RC $7-900
Norwegian $1000-1500
German $800-2500

Again, features of individual rifles may move a rifle up or down the scale. There are variants of each type (like a mint FN contract Israeli or a Norwegian that was built on a completely matching Kriegsmarine rifle) that will push a rifle right out of its category.

handy list... maybe Polaris or another knowledgable member can add the value ranges of the various commonly available latin American contract mausers, including rebuilds and conversions like the Brazilian M954?, etc.

It would be nice to have an A to Z list, stickied.

 

[CanadianAR]

That gun is a mess, restamped numbers, total mix of parts. I personally would value an RC higher. It’s been sanded, stripped, stained etc.

I mean I wouldn’t buy it but if I was looking for a shooter, $500 would be tops.

And I don’t think $2500 is even tops for a good german k98k anymore. If it’s rare or exotic.

 

[bros]

You just made me chew all my finger nails down to the flesh!!!

That gun is a mess, restamped numbers, total mix of parts. I personally would value an RC higher. It’s been sanded, stripped, stained etc.

I mean I wouldn’t buy it but if I was looking for a shooter, $500 would be tops.

And I don’t think $2500 is even tops for a good german k98k anymore. If it’s rare or exotic.

 

[Cornflake Leader]

That gun is a mess, restamped numbers, total mix of parts. I personally would value an RC higher. It’s been sanded, stripped, stained etc.

LOL, I did list the Chech rifles below the RCs!

I mean I wouldn’t buy it but if I was looking for a shooter, $500 would be tops. And I don’t think $2500 is even tops for a good german k98k anymore. If it’s rare or exotic.

And there's the rub;the difference between the EE market and the collector market. I might not pay $700 either but you can bet your butt that if a supply of rifles identical to the OP's turned up, they would hit the retail market at no less than $900. Remember, someone actually gave Weimajack almost $900 for that Yugo rebuild!

Besides, you and I both know that most of the rifles worth collecting don't go through the EE - unless it's someone like Badger cashing in a lifetime's collection.

 

[gaff]

That gun is a mess, restamped numbers, total mix of parts. I personally would value an RC higher. It’s been sanded, stripped, stained etc.

I mean I wouldn’t buy it but if I was looking for a shooter, $500 would be tops.

And I don’t think $2500 is even tops for a good german k98k anymore. If it’s rare or exotic.

I tend not to agree with a RC being worth more , as there all mismatched as well ,and over priced by at least $300
all surplus rifles need to be valued on there own individual merits. all the countries in Europe had large numbers of k98s after 1945.