Mccabee or WK180?
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I think the idea is to keep the receiver as original as possible so that the RCMP have no excuse to make up something silly.
You say looks, trigger choice, takedown pins and takedown are all irrelevant. Perhaps to you, not to me. If looks didn't matter why don't we all want to bang Oprah Winfrey? I bought several Trigger Tech packs on Boxing Day and would like to use those as they are my preference, unfortunately the SLR doesn't accept all in one triggers. I'll be buying the ATRS receiver and spare uppers to be able to do quick swaps between calibers (no tools needed or threads to strip). Again those things may not matter to you but to build and do what I want, they do to me. You are right there is no FRT but depending if it is a child of the MV perhaps it'll be quicker than you think. Anyways I will wait to see the outcome and in the meantime I'm very excited for the WK180-C and it will fill my idle hands
r34skyline
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ATRS receiver isn't goofy looking, doesn't use a proprietary trigger pack, uses a takedown pin not bolt, is made of the same material as SLR, you can truly make the rifle you want and it's $25 cheaper lol
Is there a single functional example of the atrs yet? The mh and mv had reliability issues(i would hedge it on mostly modified dpms parts... but i digress) what you posted iirc is the at15 which is in fact restricted. Correct me if I'm wrong. If atrs follows through it's another fine option to have. But it won't be here at the same time as the macdef pending the timeline is met. Oh and correct me if I'm wrong but said atrs has no frt correct?
Mr wolverine I am patiently awaiting the next batch hopefully the 7.62x39 version is reliable and has a good supply of mags. I am very happy this rifle exists. Lets get more on the way please.
You say looks, trigger choice, takedown pins and takedown are all irrelevant. Perhaps to you, not to me. If looks didn't matter why don't we all want to bang Oprah Winfrey? I bought several Trigger Tech packs on Boxing Day and would like to use those as they are my preference, unfortunately the SLR doesn't accept all in one triggers. I'll be buying the ATRS receiver and spare uppers to be able to do quick swaps between calibers (no tools needed or threads to strip). Again those things may not matter to you but to build and do what I want, they do to me. You are right there is no FRT but depending if it is a child of the MV perhaps it'll be quicker than you think. Anyways I will wait to see the outcome and in the meantime I'm very excited for the WK180-C and it will fill my idle hands
Looks don't affect performance. Clearly some are more interested in a looker than a shooter. Oh and trigger tech makes ok triggers, Geissele is the go to brand and they fit in the SLR.
r34skyline
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As does the alg trigger or the kac 2 stage. Or even timneys
No that is in fact their newly designed receiver that they are hoping gets the NR stamp. ATRS themselves claimed it is already in production and awaiting FRT. No videos yet but they've also made several claims of testing, plus some members on here have witnessed and vouched for it out in the wild. Let me make something clear right now, I'm not putting down the SLR or those who are excited for its arrival, it's often hard to tell someones tone over text, I'm just pointing out where it falls short for my intended purposes. I will wait to see how the ATRS plays out. More options are always good and it seems like we are finally getting many, with more to come
When did I say looks affect performance? I stated it makes a difference to the beholder. You may like the colour blue where I like red? The Geissele trigger is not my go to trigger and your blanket statement is again mute. You seem so offended that I have an opinion and prefer different things then you. I'm not trying to step on your love for the SLR, it just doesn't work as well for me as it sounds like it will for you.
The ALG is just a milspec trigger with some upgrades. Should work no problem. The timney was said to not work in the initial threads about this but I wouldn’t be surprised if MacDef has modified this part since then. Just speculation on my part.
I think you are absolutely correct. Wolverine could have added another $250 to the price tag and not lost any sales. They could have priced it at $1500 and they may have lost some sales but it would still have been a tremendous success. But they didn't, they gave many people want they REALLy wanted- an inexpensive AR style NR rifle that takes AR mags. It's a huge thing.
That said, it's not what *I* want, so that's why I am happy to get the MCD SLR. Although if I didn't have other NR .223 rifles, the WK would certainly be more attractive to me. ")
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Yup, and that should not be forgotten.
The pictured receiver set is the modern sporter, a child of the modern varmint. 100% compatible with AR parts. Only the stripped upper and lower receiver is proprietary.
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The frt isn't law. Correct.
The WR product being covered by an frt entry for a different make/model/manufacturer.... Incorrect.
If any of the make, model or manufacturer details change... the parent frt doesn't apply. Different and unique entries required.
r34skyline
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Roger that. It does look good. And fair play if it comes out as advertised. That's 2 great options out. Hopefully the competition drives the prices down in the future of the receiver sets.
As for this whole 6061 vs 7075. Yes the 7075 t6 is a superior receiver material. But lets get real people 6061 is a solid upgrade over the 60s/70s polymer receiver and the stamped upper.
Will this perform on par with my slr looking at my parts list? Highly unlikely... do I have hopes this is reliable and gets more people into black rifles than ever? Absolutely.
And if the 7.62x39 version if there is one performs well... my cz858s will be going on the ee.
I’ve yet to dive into a pre order as of yet, but personally the macabee is the winner hands down. The versatility of the platform as well as specs and quality of material used would make it a clear decision for myself if I chose to order one. And have unfortunately had a poor experience with another kodiak rifle which makes me extremely hesistant . Looking forward to see what other NR options will be brought forth in the coming year !
r34skyline
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Care to elaborate? What went wrong?
r34skyline
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This... pending it works well. A reliable rifle it must be.
Can you confirm this? Can I drive to ATRS and buy this tomorrow?
