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Metis hunting rights in Manitoba
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Thank you I will check this out.
bearkilr
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Unfair? Don't go there unless you can back it up with facts. I can provide some "unfair" facts from my end.
Bottom line, we should all be considered equal. By that, I'm referring to the same hunting rights and requirements for careers and education. Currently, they are nowhere near equal. Let's not play the race card.
You have no idea what I meant I'm assuming. Take a peak into the scholarships and grants we can get.
Say you take a course for welding, and there's a maximum student capacity. 30 at a time and you've got 35 kids wanting to get in, and 5 of them are metis or status. There are regulations to where those 5 would go through, and 5 caucasians would be waiting.
I wasn't taking this conversation anywhere near "just for everyone".
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I am not privy to any specifics but, I believe that all aboriginal peoples in the country pursued game at night.
Hence some of them still being allowed to.
To get back to the original question asked by the OP, A map of Metis hunting territory recognized by the CO's in this province is posted in the Selkirk Conservation office andbasically recognizes Metis hunting rights in an area that is bounded to the east by a line drawn straight south from St.Georges to the U.S. border,allthe way west to the Saskatchewan border and north along aline that runs along boundary creek to HWY.6 and then up to the Pas. The northern boundary is very jagged and needs to be seen on paper to really describe where it runs. As for Metis hunting rules the MMF has a set of standards and rules for anyone hunting with a Harvester card. Hunt out of this area or without a valid Harvester card and tags and you will risk charges and/or confiscation. Hope this has been helpful, your local Metis office can provide you with all the info you should require except that they will tell you to go hunt anywhere and if you're charged they will back you. I guess you have the option of doing that if you don't mind going through the legal process. With most of the province open to you though I don't know if I would push it!
Two themes permeate this thread, which are false. One is the concept that we should all be entitled to the same hunting rights.
In order for that to be true, then it must be ok for the conquest of civilizations by others, which then impose thier own rules and values on the conquered, like no hunting at night, and ending livelihood hunting.
The second false concept is that traditional hunting methods must be followed with primitive arms. It was actually traditional to develop or adopt new methods over time. It started with spears, then atlatl, then bow, then firearm, all before confederation.
In order for that to be true, then it must be ok for the conquest of civilizations by others, which then impose thier own rules and values on the conquered, like no hunting at night, and ending livelihood hunting.
The second false concept is that traditional hunting methods must be followed with primitive arms. It was actually traditional to develop or adopt new methods over time. It started with spears, then atlatl, then bow, then firearm, all before confederation.
I guess ignorance is bliss.... the technology we now have ie. trail cams, helicopter surveys etc can help us judge population density and routes of travel... putting ALL hunters on level footing and using these tools could truly help educate and ensure a healthy future population....
Certainly make smore sense to me than granting certain people extended seasons based on what happened to their people 100 plus years ago... Even most native chiefs will argue treaty rights are outdated......
bearkilr
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Wow, now there's an uneducated comment. You need to brush up on your history a bit, this is exactly how it has played out for hundreds of years, globally.
Thank you Big game. This is exactly what I was looking for. I owe you a beer.
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Should you be interested I have it! What is it? My Metis card! Do I use it? NO, I buy my license and follow the game seasons and rules as the rest of society does. Would I use it? If I were in a position where I "NEEDED" it to feed myself and my family YES!! To use it for the gain of getting an animal that has a quota and taking it outside of that quota or season, or just to say I CAN.... NO!! By law I have been Granted that "RIGHT" if we dare call it that, I call it a PRIVILEGE, and one not be abused! I have issue with the way the native hunter's and fishermen abuse their "RIGHTS" and the way they can SUPERCEDE proper game management, laws and fair chase practices. Am I a card carrying METIS? YES I AM! Am I a POACHER? NO I AM NOT!! IMO those natives who can afford to feed their families and choose to harvest outside of the regulations are clearly in my eyes POACHERS!
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A commendable attitude.
In your eyes? Are you going to charge me? That's exactly what I thought.
What exactly would you do if you came across a truck with 1 person in it and 3 deer in the box?
If you had your harvester card you would probably know they only issue 3 tags for deer, 1 moose, and 1 elk. That's less than you can buy in certain areas.
Are you done yet?
What exactly would you do if you came across a truck with 1 person in it and 3 deer in the box?
If you had your harvester card you would probably know they only issue 3 tags for deer, 1 moose, and 1 elk. That's less than you can buy in certain areas.
Are you done yet?
Unequal application of the law is descriminatory. Having descrimination in the past was wrong, having it now in the present is equally wrong. Trying to right a percieved historical wrong by enacting current descriminatory hunting rules and regulations still ends up with active legislated descrimination.
Some believe that because they are not being descriminated against currently that the laws are now correct and balanced. This is wrong.
Either we are all equal in the eyes of the law and have equal access as Canadian citizens to wild game and hunting rules and regulations or we dont.
Two tiered race based regulations should be abolished. Anybody who supports this two tiered system are the real racists. Claiming those who want an equal and level system of being racist is a weak and disingenious tactic.
The idea that somebody should be afforded more or less rights due to ethniticity or skin colour, its offensive, is likes something out of 1930s Mississipi or Nazi Germany.
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I had the opportunity to post the "popcorn" smilie as the first reply in this thread, but thought better of it and did not.
Seems as if it would have been appropriate.
Seems as if it would have been appropriate.
I'm about ready to give up wasting my time in this thread. Nobody against it is adding anything new. All about equality.
What does it have to do with laws being equal? If you go to a courtroom, you will see natives and metis treated just as equal as caucasians. Counselors don't ask you as your name is read off a docket "do you belong to a minority?"
This is about cultural/heritage practices, and in that case, why should different types of practices be treated as equal? We would either all be wearing turbans to make it equal, or forcing those to take them off. That's just an example of equality.
What does it have to do with laws being equal? If you go to a courtroom, you will see natives and metis treated just as equal as caucasians. Counselors don't ask you as your name is read off a docket "do you belong to a minority?"
This is about cultural/heritage practices, and in that case, why should different types of practices be treated as equal? We would either all be wearing turbans to make it equal, or forcing those to take them off. That's just an example of equality.
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