Metis hunting rights in Manitoba

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wow what a runaway thread!!

all it needed was the one funny answer.

"ayup it's open season on em but don't bring any beer, it's illegal to bait em"!!!
(not my opinion, just part of a bad old joke from swan river, mb)

but seriously people, if everyone did everything with respect there would be no need for finger pointing in either direction.

don't matter what color a person's skin is, it's the WHOLE human race that is buggered up.

if humans had any respect at all, we would all be allowed to provide for our families in reasonable quantities. but the death of provision was the birth of sport.
 
unforgivenx said:
wow what a runaway thread!!

all it needed was the one funny answer.

"ayup it's open season on em but don't bring any beer, it's illegal to bait em"!!!
(not my opinion, just part of a bad old joke from swan river, mb)

but seriously people, if everyone did everything with respect there would be no need for finger pointing in either direction.

don't matter what color a person's skin is, it's the WHOLE human race that is buggered up.

if humans had any respect at all, we would all be allowed to provide for our families in reasonable quantities. but the death of provision was the birth of sport.
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Ya all I wanted was to know a little about the regs governing Metis hunting. Then the haters came in and it spiraled out of control. Can't we all just get along.
 
I told you there were a group of indians confirmed....AS IN I WITNESSED IT.....taking many trophy mule deer in this area out of season, day and night, without permision. Is tat clear enough for you or are yu still not getting it?
 
unforgivenx said:
If humans had any respect at all, we would all be allowed to provide for our families in reasonable quantities. but the death of provision was the birth of sport.
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Exactly!!!!

sksavenger said:
I told you there were a group of indians confirmed....AS IN I WITNESSED IT.....taking many trophy mule deer in this area out of season, day and night, without permision. Is tat clear enough for you or are yu still not getting it?
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Don't know the number for your C.O/Police??? Tresspassing is breaking the law as is night hunting...Make a citizens arrest..Video it...Whatever it takes...

Go to your MP..Raise a fuss...
The natives got their hunting rights because they stood together as one and pushed for it...

Get enough people to stand with you, and you can change it....Thats the hard part....Don't cry at home about it..Do something!!!!!
 
It's not unlike "Droit du seigneur" or "Lord's right" (see Braveheart).
Yes some folks have more priviledges than others; morality should be your guide.
Because one can doesn't necessarily mean one should. If one needs to harvest deer ( poach for most folks) to survive, get at it.
But if it's a trivial " I can therefore I'm going to..." then bragging about isn't going to put you on most folk's must invite list.
As it shouldn't either
 
captonion said:
Exactly!!!!



Don't know the number for your C.O/Police??? Tresspassing is breaking the law as is night hunting...Make a citizens arrest..Video it...Whatever it takes...

Go to your MP..Raise a fuss...
The natives got their hunting rights because they stood together as one and pushed for it...

Get enough people to stand with you, and you can change it....Thats the hard part....Don't cry at home about it..Do something!!!!!
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Natives can hunt at night
 
Aboriginal or not breaking the law is breaking the law. Hense the reason for my original inquiry MMF website says Metis have much the same rights as full status. It also says that you could get arrested for doing it and part of the MMF's mandate is to help you out if this happens. (would rather not take the chance) The conservation Manitoba website does not say anything in regards to Metis it just talks about status and non status. As I suspected it is really not worth the effort. Sure you can hunt and fish when and where you want but if you get pulled over by conservation with a Metis card you could get arrested (depending on the mood of the CO I guess). Saving 30 bucks on a license to end up losing all my sh_t and the right to hunt and fish is sooooo not worth it. To all the haters out there, you can unbunch your panties now. This tread is done.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
While they can't hunt on private property they can hunt at night.

Happens all the time, Hunting at night is a traditional hunting method.
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Group up, and get it changed...Thats the only way...Protest...

Here charges have been laid, rifles taken away from natives for night hunting, shooting on roadways, and out of vehicles, and charged stood in court...Your C.Os have not been doing their part...Natives just down the road from my fathers, got charged for all three, as well as replacment value the robot deer...They also had their rights revoked from the band....
 
Enfield303 said:
No hunting at night in Manitoba. 1/2 hour before sunrise till 1/2 hour after sunset.
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Better check up on that. Natives can hunt at night if there's no safety concern/risk. Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but that's the way it's worded.

Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
Hunting at night is a traditional hunting method.
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Please elaborate, I'm very curious to hear about traditional night hunting methods.
 
I still see some of you who are thinking Metis harvesters can hunt year round, your wrong. Also ignorant for going on about it anyway. Also its not free. The harvester card is to be renewed every year for 25 dollars, and the harvester season runs mid-July to mid-January.

You can't just have an MMF membership card and go use it as a hunting/fishing permit. The harvester card is separate.

I don't use it to take advantage, or because its "there". I have it because its who I am. As stated, I do buy licenses regardless of already having tags. Why? Wardens can be dicks about it to.

Should we get into unfair educational and career opportunities given to us next?

I don't talk like this to brag, but how else can we return the discrimination?
 
bearkilr said:
Better check up on that. Natives can hunt at night if there's no safety concern/risk. Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but that's the way it's worded.



Please elaborate, I'm very curious to hear about traditional night hunting methods.
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Can you post a link to this info. As I understand it the law states the no one shall discarge a firearm 1/2 hour after sunset till 1/2 hour before sunrise.
 
Enfield303 said:
Can you post a link to this info. As I understand it the law states the no one shall discarge a firearm 1/2 hour after sunset till 1/2 hour before sunrise.
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"No one" meaning non-staus Indian.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/conservation/firstnations/hunting_fishing_oct_09.pdf

�� discharge a rifle or shotgun at night where it is dangerous to do so;

It was illegal, but due to the Supreme Court's ruling in 2007 about a native band's treaty night hunting rights on Vancouver Island, the MB NDP changed it to avoid a costly court battle within MB which they would have surely lost.

Story here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2006/12/21/hunt-supremecourt.html
 
It is also important that all fishers and hunters be aware
that safety is extremely important not only for themselves but also for other users of the
land. For these reasons, there are some restrictions that are intended for conservation and
safety purposes that apply to all Aboriginal users and licensed hunters and fishers.
Hunters cannot:
�� use hunting methods which are careless, unsafe or dangerous to any person;
�� hunt while intoxicated;
�� discharge a rifle or shotgun at night where it is dangerous to do so;
�� hunt from a Provincial Road or Provincial Trunk Highway, or discharge a bow or
firearm from such a road or highway, or shoot along or across such a road or highway
(including the road allowance);
�� discharge a centre-fire rifle, muzzle-loading firearm or shotgun using a slug from a
public road within a municipality or local government district, or shoot along or
across such a road;
�� carry a loaded firearm in a vehicle or discharge a firearm from a vehicle.
There are also Federal regulations dealing with boat safety equipment.

This is right off the Manitoba Consevation website.
 
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