Metis hunting rights in Manitoba

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Burbot....aka Ling Cod, Mariah, Freshwater Cod. You should try it, some of the best tasting fish out there once you get past the appearance.

Exactly --- but left on the ice in the thousands and thousands of pounds by the "stewards of the land" of all races wielding their nets.

Not as bad as hundreds of caribou laying around on the lake ice with tongues and a few of the haunches gone though. (Remote Northern Saskatchewan circa late 1970's.) :mad:

And don't some of you guys start with me. I know what I saw.
 
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Commercial fishing has nothing to do with sustenance fishing. Have any idea how much crab, lobster is wasted if they die before they get unloaded? a fukin lot. There is a lot of waste in other business's that use natural resources. At least fishing is a renewable one, anyway have fun with this thread.
 
What can be done about it? Nothing? Anything that is said is construed as being racist and as the war of words and accusations rages on from both sides, conservation and game management goes out the window! There are only losers on all sides of this issue white, non white and the wildlife. We all need to protect the land, animals and way of life we love. There are already too many forces against us, and as hunters (no matter what race, creed or color) we will lose as a divided,bickering group. I think I've said as much as I'm going to on this thread, and I'd be glad to sit down and have a beer with you Enfield303.

Well spoken. Its easy to see we have a long way to go and alot to think about. I think we should stop dwelling on the past, the laws are as they are. The only way we can move forward is to stop bickering like children, set aside our differences and work together towards a common goal. CONSERVATION! Report anyone you see breaking the laws, if nothing is done report that CO to his/her superiors. If still nothing is done write your MP. The land is ther for all of us (no matter what race, creed or color) it is up to us to protect it for future generations. Now how do I delete this thread its giving me a headache LOL.
 
Well spoken. Its easy to see we have a long way to go and alot to think about. I think we should stop dwelling on the past, the laws are as they are. The only way we can move forward is to stop bickering like children, set aside our differences and work together towards a common goal. CONSERVATION! Report anyone you see breaking the laws, if nothing is done report that CO to his/her superiors. If still nothing is done write your MP. The land is ther for all of us (no matter what race, creed or color) it is up to us to protect it for future generations. Now how do I delete this thread its giving me a headache LOL.

So you agree that there should be no "special" or additional seasons for native hunters?....
 
Once again, a pro-native rights individual starts to threaten when someone disagrees and stands up.
I don't know why I came back to this thread and I don't know why I get suckered into these discussions. But, I'm going to voice a few thoughts even tho I'm gonna get labled a racist again.
For starters, protests are alot easier for a group of people who can afford to stop working and go to parliament hill. Funny how that works, kinda like the pipeline meetings. Some are paid by our govt, with our tax dollars, to protest. I however, work. That takes alot of my time.
Even better is when my tax dollars go to pay for someones education, (like law school) so that person can take more tax dollars to court and fight my govt for more land claims and rights. WTF happened there?!
But, that's not primarily dealing with the wildlife issue that started all this, so,
let's get back to protests.
Here in Cape Breton, a few years back, the local folks DID try and protest the un-regulated moose hunting by "natives". What did we do?
We blocked off the main logging road going into the hunted area. We protested.
What happened? The provincal DNR and the RCMP landed and told us to leave or we would be charged. We were not allowed to interfere with their hunt. How do you like that.
As far as "stewards of the land" goes, lets get something straight.
Before the whiteman came to this land, the natives didn't put any huge pressure on the natural resources. Not becouse of any conservational practices that were being followed, but becouse you didn't have (1) the population base and (2) the technology to have a negative impact.
The native tribes were hunter/gathers, and living areas were seasonal becouse of it.
They would move into an area and live off the land in that area until it became necessary to move to find resources. The animals became wary from hunting pressure, the berries and seeds where used up. The firewood gathered from that area.
Only now your using technology that you didn't have, and it will and is having an impact.
Your not practicing conservation. But your giving lip service to govt and media to make it look so. The native bands here even said that they were going to keep track of harvest numbers with the moose hunt by putting up a check site. That didn't last. There was only someone there half the time and only during the day. You never see native's heading back to hunt till dusk. Most moose are being shot at night here. How many are lost in the dark? That's conservation. Stewards of the resource.
I could go on and on about this but it's lost on the ones who love to cry "racist"!
You can thank our lieberal courts for this becouse the people of Canada certinaly don't stand behind you. As someone else pointed out, the general public either dosen't know the details or are scared of being labeled a racist.
 
I have a Metis status card. For me No I do not intend to use it. For people like the inuit who will perish if not allowed to hunt. That is a much more complicated issue.
 
As someone who works with firearms all day every day. I dissagree with any night shooting whatsoever for any group. There is no way to be sure it is safe to shoot in the dark. Bush does not count as a backstop.
 
I have a Metis status card. For me No I do not intend to use it. For people like the inuit who will perish if not allowed to hunt. That is a much more complicated issue.

Why wouldn't you use your Metis status to gain education, better employment, etc. You don't have to apply for the "collectors card" and run around shooting deer and moose all winter. Even more so being that you live in a modern city of 800,000 with all the amenities at hand.
 
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The education I really want is medicinal herbs, berries, vegetables, grains and mushrooms that are native to Manitoba. That is a real education. Traditional ways of tanning and preserving fur for clothing and shelter. Traditional recipes. Learning and preserving the languages and customs that are being lost.
 
Once again, a pro-native rights individual starts to threaten when someone disagrees and stands up.
I don't know why I came back to this thread and I don't know why I get suckered into these discussions. But, I'm going to voice a few thoughts even tho I'm gonna get labled a racist again.
For starters, protests are alot easier for a group of people who can afford to stop working and go to parliament hill. Funny how that works, kinda like the pipeline meetings. Some are paid by our govt, with our tax dollars, to protest. I however, work. That takes alot of my time.
Even better is when my tax dollars go to pay for someones education, (like law school) so that person can take more tax dollars to court and fight my govt for more land claims and rights. WTF happened there?!
But, that's not primarily dealing with the wildlife issue that started all this, so,
let's get back to protests.
Here in Cape Breton, a few years back, the local folks DID try and protest the un-regulated moose hunting by "natives". What did we do?
We blocked off the main logging road going into the hunted area. We protested.
What happened? The provincal DNR and the RCMP landed and told us to leave or we would be charged. We were not allowed to interfere with their hunt. How do you like that.
As far as "stewards of the land" goes, lets get something straight.
Before the whiteman came to this land, the natives didn't put any huge pressure on the natural resources. Not becouse of any conservational practices that were being followed, but becouse you didn't have (1) the population base and (2) the technology to have a negative impact.
The native tribes were hunter/gathers, and living areas were seasonal becouse of it.
They would move into an area and live off the land in that area until it became necessary to move to find resources. The animals became wary from hunting pressure, the berries and seeds where used up. The firewood gathered from that area.
Only now your using technology that you didn't have, and it will and is having an impact.
Your not practicing conservation. But your giving lip service to govt and media to make it look so. The native bands here even said that they were going to keep track of harvest numbers with the moose hunt by putting up a check site. That didn't last. There was only someone there half the time and only during the day. You never see native's heading back to hunt till dusk. Most moose are being shot at night here. How many are lost in the dark? That's conservation. Stewards of the resource.
I could go on and on about this but it's lost on the ones who love to cry "racist"!
You can thank our lieberal courts for this becouse the people of Canada certinaly don't stand behind you. As someone else pointed out, the general public either dosen't know the details or are scared of being labeled a racist.
Your absolutely right.What's going on here with the moose is digraceful.I can't believe there are any left.
 
Metis issue

Back to the original post. This is what the 2010-2012 BC reg's say regarding Metis hunters:
"A reminder that all Metis individuals intending to hunt in the upcoming season are required under the Wildlife Act, to hold a valid hunting licence and comply with all appropriate hunting regulations. This includes obtaining appropriate species licences and complying with Limited Hunting Regulations".
I'm sure this doesnt answer all of the question, but hope it helps a bit.
Cheers folks.
Geoff
Victoria,BC.
 
So you agree that there should be no "special" or additional seasons for native hunters?....


What I think is that for people such as myself who live in the city and have the means to survive without it. No there should be no speciel season. But for people on the res way out in the middle of nowhere. In places where it costs boatloads of money to fly in supplies. Yes there should. For people who are " throwing burbot, pickeral and pike out on the ice to die and only taking whitefish" or killing all the moose in one area is a crime in my eyes! Aboriginal or not killing more than you need is a crime. Killing it and leaving it to rot is a crime. An especially big shame on you to any aboriginals doing such things you should know better.
 
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